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Are there legal definitions of ethnicities/races?



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I recently came across several unrelated articles discussing Afro-American topics in the USA. The topics were various, but generally around positive/negative discrimination, oppression (real vs felt), etc.



The exact details were not important - the point is that they were around "we" (say - African-Americans) versus "them (say - Asians). The ethnicity does not matter.



I was wondering whether under US law (I am French and we do not have racial concepts which are legally relevant) there is a legal definition of "African American".



Could I, a white person with mostly European nordic ancestry (blond hair, blue eyed) claim to be "African American"? And be held liable for that because of [the definition I am asking about]?



Beside the academic aspect of the question, I was wondering how "ethnicity" is measured when there are possible tangible advantages (positive discrimination in universities comes to mind). The exact ethnicity does not matter (I took African American because of the articles I read but any will do - provided they are all equivalent, legally speaking), it is more about how legally any of them are separated from the others.



Note: I initially used the word "race" in the title of my question, changing to "ethnicity" afterwards because I am interested in the legal, and not biological aspect. When reading Wikipedia, however, I noticed that they are sometimes used interchangeably, and sometimes one after the other ("... the largest ethnic and racial group ..."). I finally put both in case this is relevant










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  • There was the case of a white teenager who moved from South Africa to the USA and became US citizen, whose school was very offended when he said that he was African American. Which in fact he was.

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I recently came across several unrelated articles discussing Afro-American topics in the USA. The topics were various, but generally around positive/negative discrimination, oppression (real vs felt), etc.



The exact details were not important - the point is that they were around "we" (say - African-Americans) versus "them (say - Asians). The ethnicity does not matter.



I was wondering whether under US law (I am French and we do not have racial concepts which are legally relevant) there is a legal definition of "African American".



Could I, a white person with mostly European nordic ancestry (blond hair, blue eyed) claim to be "African American"? And be held liable for that because of [the definition I am asking about]?



Beside the academic aspect of the question, I was wondering how "ethnicity" is measured when there are possible tangible advantages (positive discrimination in universities comes to mind). The exact ethnicity does not matter (I took African American because of the articles I read but any will do - provided they are all equivalent, legally speaking), it is more about how legally any of them are separated from the others.



Note: I initially used the word "race" in the title of my question, changing to "ethnicity" afterwards because I am interested in the legal, and not biological aspect. When reading Wikipedia, however, I noticed that they are sometimes used interchangeably, and sometimes one after the other ("... the largest ethnic and racial group ..."). I finally put both in case this is relevant










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  • There was the case of a white teenager who moved from South Africa to the USA and became US citizen, whose school was very offended when he said that he was African American. Which in fact he was.

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I recently came across several unrelated articles discussing Afro-American topics in the USA. The topics were various, but generally around positive/negative discrimination, oppression (real vs felt), etc.



The exact details were not important - the point is that they were around "we" (say - African-Americans) versus "them (say - Asians). The ethnicity does not matter.



I was wondering whether under US law (I am French and we do not have racial concepts which are legally relevant) there is a legal definition of "African American".



Could I, a white person with mostly European nordic ancestry (blond hair, blue eyed) claim to be "African American"? And be held liable for that because of [the definition I am asking about]?



Beside the academic aspect of the question, I was wondering how "ethnicity" is measured when there are possible tangible advantages (positive discrimination in universities comes to mind). The exact ethnicity does not matter (I took African American because of the articles I read but any will do - provided they are all equivalent, legally speaking), it is more about how legally any of them are separated from the others.



Note: I initially used the word "race" in the title of my question, changing to "ethnicity" afterwards because I am interested in the legal, and not biological aspect. When reading Wikipedia, however, I noticed that they are sometimes used interchangeably, and sometimes one after the other ("... the largest ethnic and racial group ..."). I finally put both in case this is relevant










share|improve this question
















I recently came across several unrelated articles discussing Afro-American topics in the USA. The topics were various, but generally around positive/negative discrimination, oppression (real vs felt), etc.



The exact details were not important - the point is that they were around "we" (say - African-Americans) versus "them (say - Asians). The ethnicity does not matter.



I was wondering whether under US law (I am French and we do not have racial concepts which are legally relevant) there is a legal definition of "African American".



Could I, a white person with mostly European nordic ancestry (blond hair, blue eyed) claim to be "African American"? And be held liable for that because of [the definition I am asking about]?



Beside the academic aspect of the question, I was wondering how "ethnicity" is measured when there are possible tangible advantages (positive discrimination in universities comes to mind). The exact ethnicity does not matter (I took African American because of the articles I read but any will do - provided they are all equivalent, legally speaking), it is more about how legally any of them are separated from the others.



Note: I initially used the word "race" in the title of my question, changing to "ethnicity" afterwards because I am interested in the legal, and not biological aspect. When reading Wikipedia, however, I noticed that they are sometimes used interchangeably, and sometimes one after the other ("... the largest ethnic and racial group ..."). I finally put both in case this is relevant







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There was the case of a white teenager who moved from South Africa to the USA and became US citizen, whose school was very offended when he said that he was African American. Which in fact he was.

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Honestly, the the organization you are receiving the advantage from would have to decide.



You could challenge the decision of that organization in court, if you felt you were not receiving the advantage you were entitled to then a judge or jury would have to decide if you were correct.



Also, universities and such are not required to take any African American under Affirmative Action, but they can not discriminate against them. It is not a guarantee, but a method to prevent them from barring or discriminating against anyone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action#United_States





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    Honestly, the the organization you are receiving the advantage from would have to decide.



    You could challenge the decision of that organization in court, if you felt you were not receiving the advantage you were entitled to then a judge or jury would have to decide if you were correct.



    Also, universities and such are not required to take any African American under Affirmative Action, but they can not discriminate against them. It is not a guarantee, but a method to prevent them from barring or discriminating against anyone.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action#United_States





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      Honestly, the the organization you are receiving the advantage from would have to decide.



      You could challenge the decision of that organization in court, if you felt you were not receiving the advantage you were entitled to then a judge or jury would have to decide if you were correct.



      Also, universities and such are not required to take any African American under Affirmative Action, but they can not discriminate against them. It is not a guarantee, but a method to prevent them from barring or discriminating against anyone.
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action#United_States





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        Honestly, the the organization you are receiving the advantage from would have to decide.



        You could challenge the decision of that organization in court, if you felt you were not receiving the advantage you were entitled to then a judge or jury would have to decide if you were correct.



        Also, universities and such are not required to take any African American under Affirmative Action, but they can not discriminate against them. It is not a guarantee, but a method to prevent them from barring or discriminating against anyone.
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirmative_action#United_States





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        Honestly, the the organization you are receiving the advantage from would have to decide.



        You could challenge the decision of that organization in court, if you felt you were not receiving the advantage you were entitled to then a judge or jury would have to decide if you were correct.



        Also, universities and such are not required to take any African American under Affirmative Action, but they can not discriminate against them. It is not a guarantee, but a method to prevent them from barring or discriminating against anyone.
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