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How long to clear the 'suck zone' of a turbofan after start is initiated?


How long can passengers survive after ditching in the ocean?Why is there no alert if shutting down a running engine during flight?How does the shape of the blades on N1 fan on a turbofan generate thrust?How can cargo be jettisoned from a C-124 in flight?What would have happened if the jet engine on my aircraft had ingested caulk from the pavement?Can we eliminate the center tank of large passenger planes?How is risk managed in single engined piston aircraft flights?What's the name of this component of the turbofan engines?How do you maximize an electric engines thrust?Does the P&W F100 turbofan engine of the F-16 really produce this much power?













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I recently found this (IMO funny) picture. All funny and all. But let's make this a real situation.



Let's suppose I see my crush and his BF doing this, and I come with this 'genius' idea (alright, it's anything but a genius idea, but still) to start the engine they are sitting on. And no, I am not nice enough to turn the beacon lights on.



How likely is it that the engine gains enough suction to suck them in without they noticing it in time (considering the fact they need to standup and run for their lives)?



How long does it take for the engine to spool up enough suck a person in?










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Engine meme...or something



I recently found this (IMO funny) picture. All funny and all. But let's make this a real situation.



Let's suppose I see my crush and his BF doing this, and I come with this 'genius' idea (alright, it's anything but a genius idea, but still) to start the engine they are sitting on. And no, I am not nice enough to turn the beacon lights on.



How likely is it that the engine gains enough suction to suck them in without they noticing it in time (considering the fact they need to standup and run for their lives)?



How long does it take for the engine to spool up enough suck a person in?










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$begingroup$


Engine meme...or something



I recently found this (IMO funny) picture. All funny and all. But let's make this a real situation.



Let's suppose I see my crush and his BF doing this, and I come with this 'genius' idea (alright, it's anything but a genius idea, but still) to start the engine they are sitting on. And no, I am not nice enough to turn the beacon lights on.



How likely is it that the engine gains enough suction to suck them in without they noticing it in time (considering the fact they need to standup and run for their lives)?



How long does it take for the engine to spool up enough suck a person in?










share|improve this question











$endgroup$




Engine meme...or something



I recently found this (IMO funny) picture. All funny and all. But let's make this a real situation.



Let's suppose I see my crush and his BF doing this, and I come with this 'genius' idea (alright, it's anything but a genius idea, but still) to start the engine they are sitting on. And no, I am not nice enough to turn the beacon lights on.



How likely is it that the engine gains enough suction to suck them in without they noticing it in time (considering the fact they need to standup and run for their lives)?



How long does it take for the engine to spool up enough suck a person in?







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I'm not sure why the VtC for "opinion based". Seems that there are some pretty reliable facts already posted in the answers.
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The suck zone ahead of a CFM56 on an A320 is less than 5 meters. The couple have enough time to take a leisurely walk toward the cockpit window.



On the neo with PW1000G engines it's 2.9 m.



The engine start time takes upwards of a minute.






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A start on a TF all the way to idle is about 20-40 seconds depending on the engine, and the fan itself won't do more than creep a bit until the core actually lights off which is 5-10 seconds, so they'll have lots of time to get down and get away as per @ymb1's diagram, once the wheeEEEEEEEEEEtickticktickticktickticktick starts.






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The suck zone ahead of a CFM56 on an A320 is less than 5 meters. The couple have enough time to take a leisurely walk toward the cockpit window.



On the neo with PW1000G engines it's 2.9 m.



The engine start time takes upwards of a minute.






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$begingroup$

enter image description here

(Airbus)



The suck zone ahead of a CFM56 on an A320 is less than 5 meters. The couple have enough time to take a leisurely walk toward the cockpit window.



On the neo with PW1000G engines it's 2.9 m.



The engine start time takes upwards of a minute.






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enter image description here

(Airbus)



The suck zone ahead of a CFM56 on an A320 is less than 5 meters. The couple have enough time to take a leisurely walk toward the cockpit window.



On the neo with PW1000G engines it's 2.9 m.



The engine start time takes upwards of a minute.






share|improve this answer









$endgroup$



enter image description here

(Airbus)



The suck zone ahead of a CFM56 on an A320 is less than 5 meters. The couple have enough time to take a leisurely walk toward the cockpit window.



On the neo with PW1000G engines it's 2.9 m.



The engine start time takes upwards of a minute.







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    – Ralph J
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And, it gets really loud immediately when the starter engages. That'll get your attention right away, followed by the fan starting to turn slowly.
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– Ralph J
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And, it gets really loud immediately when the starter engages. That'll get your attention right away, followed by the fan starting to turn slowly.
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A start on a TF all the way to idle is about 20-40 seconds depending on the engine, and the fan itself won't do more than creep a bit until the core actually lights off which is 5-10 seconds, so they'll have lots of time to get down and get away as per @ymb1's diagram, once the wheeEEEEEEEEEEtickticktickticktickticktick starts.






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    I love the written description of the startup sound. +1
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    From now on this is the sound of evil.
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$begingroup$

A start on a TF all the way to idle is about 20-40 seconds depending on the engine, and the fan itself won't do more than creep a bit until the core actually lights off which is 5-10 seconds, so they'll have lots of time to get down and get away as per @ymb1's diagram, once the wheeEEEEEEEEEEtickticktickticktickticktick starts.






share|improve this answer









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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    I love the written description of the startup sound. +1
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    – Pugz
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  • $begingroup$
    From now on this is the sound of evil.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter
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$begingroup$

A start on a TF all the way to idle is about 20-40 seconds depending on the engine, and the fan itself won't do more than creep a bit until the core actually lights off which is 5-10 seconds, so they'll have lots of time to get down and get away as per @ymb1's diagram, once the wheeEEEEEEEEEEtickticktickticktickticktick starts.






share|improve this answer









$endgroup$



A start on a TF all the way to idle is about 20-40 seconds depending on the engine, and the fan itself won't do more than creep a bit until the core actually lights off which is 5-10 seconds, so they'll have lots of time to get down and get away as per @ymb1's diagram, once the wheeEEEEEEEEEEtickticktickticktickticktick starts.







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