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Killing undead fish underwater
How likely would a zombie apocalypse be to wipe out civilization in medieval England?How serious would a threat need to be for bombingHow would my 'zombie' virus cross bodies of waterZombie army is bad idea. But why actually?Castle Moat Full of ZombiesSafety measures implemented if humanity had won in a Walking Dead style scenarioPlausible Components for Zombie Immunization?What would be the best dog breed companion for a zombie apocalypse?Feasibility of Digital ZombiesZombie infection is worse than imagined: how can humanity survive?
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To kill zombies on land, you usually have to either chop their head off, burn them down or use purification magic (if it is a fantasy world).
But underwater you can't kill the zombies the same way as you do on land. Fire doesn't burn underwater and swinging a sword to cut a fish's head is nearly impossible. Harpooning them will work on larger fishes but ineffective on smaller fishes.
Details:
The fish are around 20 centimeter in length, just think of piranhas
The undead are 'dead' organisms controlled by a zombie virus (like the one on The Walking Dead, just that it only infects animals)
The question is set in a medieval world. How the populace and the government react would isn't important, what I am asking is how can someone kill those zombie fish (assume you have unlimited materials that are available on the medieval age)?
science-based medieval combat zombies
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To kill zombies on land, you usually have to either chop their head off, burn them down or use purification magic (if it is a fantasy world).
But underwater you can't kill the zombies the same way as you do on land. Fire doesn't burn underwater and swinging a sword to cut a fish's head is nearly impossible. Harpooning them will work on larger fishes but ineffective on smaller fishes.
Details:
The fish are around 20 centimeter in length, just think of piranhas
The undead are 'dead' organisms controlled by a zombie virus (like the one on The Walking Dead, just that it only infects animals)
The question is set in a medieval world. How the populace and the government react would isn't important, what I am asking is how can someone kill those zombie fish (assume you have unlimited materials that are available on the medieval age)?
science-based medieval combat zombies
edited 4 hours ago
Cyn
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asked 6 hours ago
A random person no.0A random person no.0
876
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Net them, lift out of water, burn in air.
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– StephenG
6 hours ago
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I think @StephenG 's answer is the best one so far. You should write it up before someone beats you to it. Oh, add a shredder.
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– Cyn
4 hours ago
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@Cyn I was thinking the OP might have reasons for not considering this a reasonable approach and waiting for comment to that effect. I'd like to give the OP more time for that (and I'm fine with it if someone else wants to run with this idea).
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– StephenG
3 hours ago
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Ad: these limited superintelligence wild dolphin born n bred in Israel now comes with a deadly laser, get yours today batteries not included.
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– user6760
2 hours ago
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$begingroup$
To kill zombies on land, you usually have to either chop their head off, burn them down or use purification magic (if it is a fantasy world).
But underwater you can't kill the zombies the same way as you do on land. Fire doesn't burn underwater and swinging a sword to cut a fish's head is nearly impossible. Harpooning them will work on larger fishes but ineffective on smaller fishes.
Details:
The fish are around 20 centimeter in length, just think of piranhas
The undead are 'dead' organisms controlled by a zombie virus (like the one on The Walking Dead, just that it only infects animals)
The question is set in a medieval world. How the populace and the government react would isn't important, what I am asking is how can someone kill those zombie fish (assume you have unlimited materials that are available on the medieval age)?
science-based medieval combat zombies
edited 4 hours ago
Cyn
12.5k12759
asked 6 hours ago
A random person no.0A random person no.0
876
$endgroup$
To kill zombies on land, you usually have to either chop their head off, burn them down or use purification magic (if it is a fantasy world).
But underwater you can't kill the zombies the same way as you do on land. Fire doesn't burn underwater and swinging a sword to cut a fish's head is nearly impossible. Harpooning them will work on larger fishes but ineffective on smaller fishes.
Details:
The fish are around 20 centimeter in length, just think of piranhas
The undead are 'dead' organisms controlled by a zombie virus (like the one on The Walking Dead, just that it only infects animals)
The question is set in a medieval world. How the populace and the government react would isn't important, what I am asking is how can someone kill those zombie fish (assume you have unlimited materials that are available on the medieval age)?
science-based medieval combat zombies
science-based medieval combat zombies
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Cyn
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asked 6 hours ago
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876
edited 4 hours ago
Cyn
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edited 4 hours ago
Cyn
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Net them, lift out of water, burn in air.
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– StephenG
6 hours ago
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I think @StephenG 's answer is the best one so far. You should write it up before someone beats you to it. Oh, add a shredder.
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– Cyn
4 hours ago
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@Cyn I was thinking the OP might have reasons for not considering this a reasonable approach and waiting for comment to that effect. I'd like to give the OP more time for that (and I'm fine with it if someone else wants to run with this idea).
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– StephenG
3 hours ago
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Ad: these limited superintelligence wild dolphin born n bred in Israel now comes with a deadly laser, get yours today batteries not included.
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– user6760
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Net them, lift out of water, burn in air.
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– StephenG
6 hours ago
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I think @StephenG 's answer is the best one so far. You should write it up before someone beats you to it. Oh, add a shredder.
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– Cyn
4 hours ago
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@Cyn I was thinking the OP might have reasons for not considering this a reasonable approach and waiting for comment to that effect. I'd like to give the OP more time for that (and I'm fine with it if someone else wants to run with this idea).
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– StephenG
3 hours ago
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Ad: these limited superintelligence wild dolphin born n bred in Israel now comes with a deadly laser, get yours today batteries not included.
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– user6760
2 hours ago
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Net them, lift out of water, burn in air.
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– StephenG
6 hours ago
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Net them, lift out of water, burn in air.
$endgroup$
– StephenG
6 hours ago
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I think @StephenG 's answer is the best one so far. You should write it up before someone beats you to it. Oh, add a shredder.
$endgroup$
– Cyn
4 hours ago
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I think @StephenG 's answer is the best one so far. You should write it up before someone beats you to it. Oh, add a shredder.
$endgroup$
– Cyn
4 hours ago
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@Cyn I was thinking the OP might have reasons for not considering this a reasonable approach and waiting for comment to that effect. I'd like to give the OP more time for that (and I'm fine with it if someone else wants to run with this idea).
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– StephenG
3 hours ago
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@Cyn I was thinking the OP might have reasons for not considering this a reasonable approach and waiting for comment to that effect. I'd like to give the OP more time for that (and I'm fine with it if someone else wants to run with this idea).
$endgroup$
– StephenG
3 hours ago
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Ad: these limited superintelligence wild dolphin born n bred in Israel now comes with a deadly laser, get yours today batteries not included.
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– user6760
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPnTCSE_KW8
Swinging a sword to cut a fish's head is nearly impossible for you. But sawfish have been doing just that since the dinosaur days. This sawfish chops a fish into shreds in 2 seconds. I had to slow down the video to get this screenshot.
Your people need those badass, zombie fish chopping, cartilaginous saw-thrashing sawfish.
answered 6 hours ago
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As @StevenG said in the comments, the easiest and most effective way to kill a fish is a net. It doesn't even have to be a zombie fish, although those would take a few steps.
While a fishing boat/net combo would be able to net the fish for disposal in other means - Like a bonfire, or a fish guillotine or some other method, nets can also be used in a much more passive manner. You can string a net across the inlet of a harbor, or across a river, or some other chokepoint. Simply by leaving the net there you can keep the zombie fish out of the area and keep it safe. Sure, you'd have to do regular checkups on the nets, but you could string a temporary one up behind it, too.
Removing the fish from water makes them significantly less of a threat, too. Sure, the bite from a zombie fish is still a zombie bite. Sure, fish could propell themselves by thrashing (And there's even some fish that can live outside of water for some time, and have adapted to moving outside of it), but it's not fast, and it's limited. Put them in a box, put a lid on top, and you - and they - are covered.
answered 4 hours ago
AndonAndon
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Yep,net them,dry them,burn them. If the brain itself need only be severely damaged poisons or high voltage currents of electricity would work well too. Otherwise you could use weaponized sonar,just do the equivalent of dropping bait in to lure them and then blast them with 250 decibel pulses at close range to turn there brains to soup. Zombies are too dumb to swim away and thus will die very easily to this method. Since this is medieval that (barring lightning rods or magic) limits use of electricity. But if black powder exists you could make underwater mines blown up from the surface.
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– Jeremy Barrett
12 mins ago
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Fire doesn't burn underwater
not exactly true. There are many chemicals which react really energetically with water and under the sea there is plenty of water.
Take some strong acid or base, locally disperse it and let it corrode the zombie fishes.
Or, if you really want fire, take an alkaline metal and coat with it a spear, protecting it with a water soluble film. As soon as the film is washed away, the reaction between the alkaline metal and the water will be really spectacular.
answered 3 hours ago
L.Dutch♦L.Dutch
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Can the undead fish be baited? If yes, perhaps an adapted fishing hook rigged with some sort of a contraption that e.g. releases a spring on contact and drives a spike through the fish's head? I don't think such purely mechanical things are beyond medieval capabilities.
answered 5 hours ago
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPnTCSE_KW8
Swinging a sword to cut a fish's head is nearly impossible for you. But sawfish have been doing just that since the dinosaur days. This sawfish chops a fish into shreds in 2 seconds. I had to slow down the video to get this screenshot.
Your people need those badass, zombie fish chopping, cartilaginous saw-thrashing sawfish.
answered 6 hours ago
WillkWillk
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPnTCSE_KW8
Swinging a sword to cut a fish's head is nearly impossible for you. But sawfish have been doing just that since the dinosaur days. This sawfish chops a fish into shreds in 2 seconds. I had to slow down the video to get this screenshot.
Your people need those badass, zombie fish chopping, cartilaginous saw-thrashing sawfish.
answered 6 hours ago
WillkWillk
119k28225499
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPnTCSE_KW8
Swinging a sword to cut a fish's head is nearly impossible for you. But sawfish have been doing just that since the dinosaur days. This sawfish chops a fish into shreds in 2 seconds. I had to slow down the video to get this screenshot.
Your people need those badass, zombie fish chopping, cartilaginous saw-thrashing sawfish.
answered 6 hours ago
WillkWillk
119k28225499
$endgroup$
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPnTCSE_KW8
Swinging a sword to cut a fish's head is nearly impossible for you. But sawfish have been doing just that since the dinosaur days. This sawfish chops a fish into shreds in 2 seconds. I had to slow down the video to get this screenshot.
Your people need those badass, zombie fish chopping, cartilaginous saw-thrashing sawfish.
answered 6 hours ago
WillkWillk
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answered 6 hours ago
WillkWillk
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As @StevenG said in the comments, the easiest and most effective way to kill a fish is a net. It doesn't even have to be a zombie fish, although those would take a few steps.
While a fishing boat/net combo would be able to net the fish for disposal in other means - Like a bonfire, or a fish guillotine or some other method, nets can also be used in a much more passive manner. You can string a net across the inlet of a harbor, or across a river, or some other chokepoint. Simply by leaving the net there you can keep the zombie fish out of the area and keep it safe. Sure, you'd have to do regular checkups on the nets, but you could string a temporary one up behind it, too.
Removing the fish from water makes them significantly less of a threat, too. Sure, the bite from a zombie fish is still a zombie bite. Sure, fish could propell themselves by thrashing (And there's even some fish that can live outside of water for some time, and have adapted to moving outside of it), but it's not fast, and it's limited. Put them in a box, put a lid on top, and you - and they - are covered.
answered 4 hours ago
AndonAndon
8,45132355
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Yep,net them,dry them,burn them. If the brain itself need only be severely damaged poisons or high voltage currents of electricity would work well too. Otherwise you could use weaponized sonar,just do the equivalent of dropping bait in to lure them and then blast them with 250 decibel pulses at close range to turn there brains to soup. Zombies are too dumb to swim away and thus will die very easily to this method. Since this is medieval that (barring lightning rods or magic) limits use of electricity. But if black powder exists you could make underwater mines blown up from the surface.
$endgroup$
– Jeremy Barrett
12 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
As @StevenG said in the comments, the easiest and most effective way to kill a fish is a net. It doesn't even have to be a zombie fish, although those would take a few steps.
While a fishing boat/net combo would be able to net the fish for disposal in other means - Like a bonfire, or a fish guillotine or some other method, nets can also be used in a much more passive manner. You can string a net across the inlet of a harbor, or across a river, or some other chokepoint. Simply by leaving the net there you can keep the zombie fish out of the area and keep it safe. Sure, you'd have to do regular checkups on the nets, but you could string a temporary one up behind it, too.
Removing the fish from water makes them significantly less of a threat, too. Sure, the bite from a zombie fish is still a zombie bite. Sure, fish could propell themselves by thrashing (And there's even some fish that can live outside of water for some time, and have adapted to moving outside of it), but it's not fast, and it's limited. Put them in a box, put a lid on top, and you - and they - are covered.
answered 4 hours ago
AndonAndon
8,45132355
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Yep,net them,dry them,burn them. If the brain itself need only be severely damaged poisons or high voltage currents of electricity would work well too. Otherwise you could use weaponized sonar,just do the equivalent of dropping bait in to lure them and then blast them with 250 decibel pulses at close range to turn there brains to soup. Zombies are too dumb to swim away and thus will die very easily to this method. Since this is medieval that (barring lightning rods or magic) limits use of electricity. But if black powder exists you could make underwater mines blown up from the surface.
$endgroup$
– Jeremy Barrett
12 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
As @StevenG said in the comments, the easiest and most effective way to kill a fish is a net. It doesn't even have to be a zombie fish, although those would take a few steps.
While a fishing boat/net combo would be able to net the fish for disposal in other means - Like a bonfire, or a fish guillotine or some other method, nets can also be used in a much more passive manner. You can string a net across the inlet of a harbor, or across a river, or some other chokepoint. Simply by leaving the net there you can keep the zombie fish out of the area and keep it safe. Sure, you'd have to do regular checkups on the nets, but you could string a temporary one up behind it, too.
Removing the fish from water makes them significantly less of a threat, too. Sure, the bite from a zombie fish is still a zombie bite. Sure, fish could propell themselves by thrashing (And there's even some fish that can live outside of water for some time, and have adapted to moving outside of it), but it's not fast, and it's limited. Put them in a box, put a lid on top, and you - and they - are covered.
answered 4 hours ago
AndonAndon
8,45132355
$endgroup$
As @StevenG said in the comments, the easiest and most effective way to kill a fish is a net. It doesn't even have to be a zombie fish, although those would take a few steps.
While a fishing boat/net combo would be able to net the fish for disposal in other means - Like a bonfire, or a fish guillotine or some other method, nets can also be used in a much more passive manner. You can string a net across the inlet of a harbor, or across a river, or some other chokepoint. Simply by leaving the net there you can keep the zombie fish out of the area and keep it safe. Sure, you'd have to do regular checkups on the nets, but you could string a temporary one up behind it, too.
Removing the fish from water makes them significantly less of a threat, too. Sure, the bite from a zombie fish is still a zombie bite. Sure, fish could propell themselves by thrashing (And there's even some fish that can live outside of water for some time, and have adapted to moving outside of it), but it's not fast, and it's limited. Put them in a box, put a lid on top, and you - and they - are covered.
answered 4 hours ago
AndonAndon
8,45132355
answered 4 hours ago
AndonAndon
8,45132355
answered 4 hours ago
AndonAndon
8,45132355
answered 4 hours ago
AndonAndon
8,45132355
8,45132355
$begingroup$
Yep,net them,dry them,burn them. If the brain itself need only be severely damaged poisons or high voltage currents of electricity would work well too. Otherwise you could use weaponized sonar,just do the equivalent of dropping bait in to lure them and then blast them with 250 decibel pulses at close range to turn there brains to soup. Zombies are too dumb to swim away and thus will die very easily to this method. Since this is medieval that (barring lightning rods or magic) limits use of electricity. But if black powder exists you could make underwater mines blown up from the surface.
$endgroup$
– Jeremy Barrett
12 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Yep,net them,dry them,burn them. If the brain itself need only be severely damaged poisons or high voltage currents of electricity would work well too. Otherwise you could use weaponized sonar,just do the equivalent of dropping bait in to lure them and then blast them with 250 decibel pulses at close range to turn there brains to soup. Zombies are too dumb to swim away and thus will die very easily to this method. Since this is medieval that (barring lightning rods or magic) limits use of electricity. But if black powder exists you could make underwater mines blown up from the surface.
$endgroup$
– Jeremy Barrett
12 mins ago
$begingroup$
Yep,net them,dry them,burn them. If the brain itself need only be severely damaged poisons or high voltage currents of electricity would work well too. Otherwise you could use weaponized sonar,just do the equivalent of dropping bait in to lure them and then blast them with 250 decibel pulses at close range to turn there brains to soup. Zombies are too dumb to swim away and thus will die very easily to this method. Since this is medieval that (barring lightning rods or magic) limits use of electricity. But if black powder exists you could make underwater mines blown up from the surface.
$endgroup$
– Jeremy Barrett
12 mins ago
$begingroup$
Yep,net them,dry them,burn them. If the brain itself need only be severely damaged poisons or high voltage currents of electricity would work well too. Otherwise you could use weaponized sonar,just do the equivalent of dropping bait in to lure them and then blast them with 250 decibel pulses at close range to turn there brains to soup. Zombies are too dumb to swim away and thus will die very easily to this method. Since this is medieval that (barring lightning rods or magic) limits use of electricity. But if black powder exists you could make underwater mines blown up from the surface.
$endgroup$
– Jeremy Barrett
12 mins ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Fire doesn't burn underwater
not exactly true. There are many chemicals which react really energetically with water and under the sea there is plenty of water.
Take some strong acid or base, locally disperse it and let it corrode the zombie fishes.
Or, if you really want fire, take an alkaline metal and coat with it a spear, protecting it with a water soluble film. As soon as the film is washed away, the reaction between the alkaline metal and the water will be really spectacular.
answered 3 hours ago
L.Dutch♦L.Dutch
93.1k29214447
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Fire doesn't burn underwater
not exactly true. There are many chemicals which react really energetically with water and under the sea there is plenty of water.
Take some strong acid or base, locally disperse it and let it corrode the zombie fishes.
Or, if you really want fire, take an alkaline metal and coat with it a spear, protecting it with a water soluble film. As soon as the film is washed away, the reaction between the alkaline metal and the water will be really spectacular.
answered 3 hours ago
L.Dutch♦L.Dutch
93.1k29214447
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Fire doesn't burn underwater
not exactly true. There are many chemicals which react really energetically with water and under the sea there is plenty of water.
Take some strong acid or base, locally disperse it and let it corrode the zombie fishes.
Or, if you really want fire, take an alkaline metal and coat with it a spear, protecting it with a water soluble film. As soon as the film is washed away, the reaction between the alkaline metal and the water will be really spectacular.
answered 3 hours ago
L.Dutch♦L.Dutch
93.1k29214447
$endgroup$
Fire doesn't burn underwater
not exactly true. There are many chemicals which react really energetically with water and under the sea there is plenty of water.
Take some strong acid or base, locally disperse it and let it corrode the zombie fishes.
Or, if you really want fire, take an alkaline metal and coat with it a spear, protecting it with a water soluble film. As soon as the film is washed away, the reaction between the alkaline metal and the water will be really spectacular.
answered 3 hours ago
L.Dutch♦L.Dutch
93.1k29214447
answered 3 hours ago
L.Dutch♦L.Dutch
93.1k29214447
answered 3 hours ago
L.Dutch♦L.Dutch
93.1k29214447
answered 3 hours ago
L.Dutch♦L.Dutch
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Can the undead fish be baited? If yes, perhaps an adapted fishing hook rigged with some sort of a contraption that e.g. releases a spring on contact and drives a spike through the fish's head? I don't think such purely mechanical things are beyond medieval capabilities.
answered 5 hours ago
Nikolay ErshovNikolay Ershov
36618
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Can the undead fish be baited? If yes, perhaps an adapted fishing hook rigged with some sort of a contraption that e.g. releases a spring on contact and drives a spike through the fish's head? I don't think such purely mechanical things are beyond medieval capabilities.
answered 5 hours ago
Nikolay ErshovNikolay Ershov
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Can the undead fish be baited? If yes, perhaps an adapted fishing hook rigged with some sort of a contraption that e.g. releases a spring on contact and drives a spike through the fish's head? I don't think such purely mechanical things are beyond medieval capabilities.
answered 5 hours ago
Nikolay ErshovNikolay Ershov
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Can the undead fish be baited? If yes, perhaps an adapted fishing hook rigged with some sort of a contraption that e.g. releases a spring on contact and drives a spike through the fish's head? I don't think such purely mechanical things are beyond medieval capabilities.
answered 5 hours ago
Nikolay ErshovNikolay Ershov
36618
answered 5 hours ago
Nikolay ErshovNikolay Ershov
36618
answered 5 hours ago
Nikolay ErshovNikolay Ershov
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answered 5 hours ago
Nikolay ErshovNikolay Ershov
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Net them, lift out of water, burn in air.
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– StephenG
6 hours ago
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I think @StephenG 's answer is the best one so far. You should write it up before someone beats you to it. Oh, add a shredder.
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– Cyn
4 hours ago
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@Cyn I was thinking the OP might have reasons for not considering this a reasonable approach and waiting for comment to that effect. I'd like to give the OP more time for that (and I'm fine with it if someone else wants to run with this idea).
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– StephenG
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