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What are the responsabilities about cited text after original licensor confesses illegal license?
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InCopyright vs. right to attributionIf no licence is distributed with an application/source code, what license applies by default if any?Is there an open source license which makes the licensee inform the licenser about the derivative product/project?What is illegal about my app?Do I need to include the full text of the MIT license in the UI of my app?What is “tortuous action” in the ISC license?Is translating and posting comic original text + translation w/o image considered legal?What is your liability in case the terms of software license are mis-stated?Algorithm (pseudo)code in academic papers — what is the copyright/license status?Question about using Wikipedia content. About “CC-BY-SA” license. About its “Copyleft/Share Alike” partUsing copyrighted material falsely advertised as Creative Commons or public domain (in U.S.)Responsibility when making claims about the license of a work
A book is published containing cited text from an article licensed under some free license like CC-BY-SA. With all requirements of such license fulfilled.
Later on the "author" of the article confesses that it was not original work and did not in fact have the right to grant licenses for the article.
What are the responsabilities of the book's author and publisher?
Is it a copyright infringement to continue publishing it unmodified claiming that any damage is caused by the author of the article and not the book's author whom acted in good faith?
Otherwise, is it a copyright infringement to reject acting on such revelation until proof is provided about the illegality of the cited article? If the author choses to keep the cited text, is there any obligation to actively investigate the license status?
Note that there is no doubt that the identities of the article's author and the one claiming it was a false license are the same. There is doubt about the veracity of his words though since he must have lied at least once, when he falsely granted a license or when he falsely confessed.
united-states copyright licensing
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A book is published containing cited text from an article licensed under some free license like CC-BY-SA. With all requirements of such license fulfilled.
Later on the "author" of the article confesses that it was not original work and did not in fact have the right to grant licenses for the article.
What are the responsabilities of the book's author and publisher?
Is it a copyright infringement to continue publishing it unmodified claiming that any damage is caused by the author of the article and not the book's author whom acted in good faith?
Otherwise, is it a copyright infringement to reject acting on such revelation until proof is provided about the illegality of the cited article? If the author choses to keep the cited text, is there any obligation to actively investigate the license status?
Note that there is no doubt that the identities of the article's author and the one claiming it was a false license are the same. There is doubt about the veracity of his words though since he must have lied at least once, when he falsely granted a license or when he falsely confessed.
united-states copyright licensing
asked Nov 21 '17 at 20:34
Jose Antonio Dura OlmosJose Antonio Dura Olmos
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Under what license did the actual author of the article publish that article? Do you think the book's use of the citation is an infringement under the actual license, not the false one? Related: https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/16415/copyright-vs-right-to-attribution
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 8:04
@Brandin Let's say the actual author is A. And the author I copied from is B (B would have copied from A). A's identity is unknown. It might even happen that A does not exist, that B is lying. B can't be trusted. Should I just keep things as they are until a firm claim appears? Or could I be held responsible for copyright infringement if a real author appears later on and he never issued a license which would allow me to copy that work?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 12:46
Wouldn't it be simpler just to say that you are citing from an author A who is unknown or anonymous? The fact that there is a non-author B who once said he is the author is not relevant to the actual author A's copyright claim.
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 13:06
@Brandin That is a given. B does not desserve at all to be mentioned. But, would it be possible to be liable for citation (an extense one, not a few lines) of an unknown author who appears and assersts his authorship at a later date?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 13:13
If you copy a significant part of a work, then yes, you could be liable. If the author hasn't given a specific license (which is the case here, since we're ignoring the untrustworthy non-author B), the default license of the unknown author's work is "all rights reserved."
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 19:44
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A book is published containing cited text from an article licensed under some free license like CC-BY-SA. With all requirements of such license fulfilled.
Later on the "author" of the article confesses that it was not original work and did not in fact have the right to grant licenses for the article.
What are the responsabilities of the book's author and publisher?
Is it a copyright infringement to continue publishing it unmodified claiming that any damage is caused by the author of the article and not the book's author whom acted in good faith?
Otherwise, is it a copyright infringement to reject acting on such revelation until proof is provided about the illegality of the cited article? If the author choses to keep the cited text, is there any obligation to actively investigate the license status?
Note that there is no doubt that the identities of the article's author and the one claiming it was a false license are the same. There is doubt about the veracity of his words though since he must have lied at least once, when he falsely granted a license or when he falsely confessed.
united-states copyright licensing
asked Nov 21 '17 at 20:34
Jose Antonio Dura OlmosJose Antonio Dura Olmos
1214
A book is published containing cited text from an article licensed under some free license like CC-BY-SA. With all requirements of such license fulfilled.
Later on the "author" of the article confesses that it was not original work and did not in fact have the right to grant licenses for the article.
What are the responsabilities of the book's author and publisher?
Is it a copyright infringement to continue publishing it unmodified claiming that any damage is caused by the author of the article and not the book's author whom acted in good faith?
Otherwise, is it a copyright infringement to reject acting on such revelation until proof is provided about the illegality of the cited article? If the author choses to keep the cited text, is there any obligation to actively investigate the license status?
Note that there is no doubt that the identities of the article's author and the one claiming it was a false license are the same. There is doubt about the veracity of his words though since he must have lied at least once, when he falsely granted a license or when he falsely confessed.
united-states copyright licensing
united-states copyright licensing
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Under what license did the actual author of the article publish that article? Do you think the book's use of the citation is an infringement under the actual license, not the false one? Related: https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/16415/copyright-vs-right-to-attribution
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 8:04
@Brandin Let's say the actual author is A. And the author I copied from is B (B would have copied from A). A's identity is unknown. It might even happen that A does not exist, that B is lying. B can't be trusted. Should I just keep things as they are until a firm claim appears? Or could I be held responsible for copyright infringement if a real author appears later on and he never issued a license which would allow me to copy that work?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 12:46
Wouldn't it be simpler just to say that you are citing from an author A who is unknown or anonymous? The fact that there is a non-author B who once said he is the author is not relevant to the actual author A's copyright claim.
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 13:06
@Brandin That is a given. B does not desserve at all to be mentioned. But, would it be possible to be liable for citation (an extense one, not a few lines) of an unknown author who appears and assersts his authorship at a later date?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 13:13
If you copy a significant part of a work, then yes, you could be liable. If the author hasn't given a specific license (which is the case here, since we're ignoring the untrustworthy non-author B), the default license of the unknown author's work is "all rights reserved."
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 19:44
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show 2 more comments
Under what license did the actual author of the article publish that article? Do you think the book's use of the citation is an infringement under the actual license, not the false one? Related: https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/16415/copyright-vs-right-to-attribution
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 8:04
@Brandin Let's say the actual author is A. And the author I copied from is B (B would have copied from A). A's identity is unknown. It might even happen that A does not exist, that B is lying. B can't be trusted. Should I just keep things as they are until a firm claim appears? Or could I be held responsible for copyright infringement if a real author appears later on and he never issued a license which would allow me to copy that work?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 12:46
Wouldn't it be simpler just to say that you are citing from an author A who is unknown or anonymous? The fact that there is a non-author B who once said he is the author is not relevant to the actual author A's copyright claim.
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 13:06
@Brandin That is a given. B does not desserve at all to be mentioned. But, would it be possible to be liable for citation (an extense one, not a few lines) of an unknown author who appears and assersts his authorship at a later date?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 13:13
If you copy a significant part of a work, then yes, you could be liable. If the author hasn't given a specific license (which is the case here, since we're ignoring the untrustworthy non-author B), the default license of the unknown author's work is "all rights reserved."
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 19:44
Under what license did the actual author of the article publish that article? Do you think the book's use of the citation is an infringement under the actual license, not the false one? Related: https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/16415/copyright-vs-right-to-attribution
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 8:04
Under what license did the actual author of the article publish that article? Do you think the book's use of the citation is an infringement under the actual license, not the false one? Related: https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/16415/copyright-vs-right-to-attribution
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 8:04
@Brandin Let's say the actual author is A. And the author I copied from is B (B would have copied from A). A's identity is unknown. It might even happen that A does not exist, that B is lying. B can't be trusted. Should I just keep things as they are until a firm claim appears? Or could I be held responsible for copyright infringement if a real author appears later on and he never issued a license which would allow me to copy that work?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 12:46
@Brandin Let's say the actual author is A. And the author I copied from is B (B would have copied from A). A's identity is unknown. It might even happen that A does not exist, that B is lying. B can't be trusted. Should I just keep things as they are until a firm claim appears? Or could I be held responsible for copyright infringement if a real author appears later on and he never issued a license which would allow me to copy that work?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 12:46
Wouldn't it be simpler just to say that you are citing from an author A who is unknown or anonymous? The fact that there is a non-author B who once said he is the author is not relevant to the actual author A's copyright claim.
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 13:06
Wouldn't it be simpler just to say that you are citing from an author A who is unknown or anonymous? The fact that there is a non-author B who once said he is the author is not relevant to the actual author A's copyright claim.
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 13:06
@Brandin That is a given. B does not desserve at all to be mentioned. But, would it be possible to be liable for citation (an extense one, not a few lines) of an unknown author who appears and assersts his authorship at a later date?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 13:13
@Brandin That is a given. B does not desserve at all to be mentioned. But, would it be possible to be liable for citation (an extense one, not a few lines) of an unknown author who appears and assersts his authorship at a later date?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 13:13
If you copy a significant part of a work, then yes, you could be liable. If the author hasn't given a specific license (which is the case here, since we're ignoring the untrustworthy non-author B), the default license of the unknown author's work is "all rights reserved."
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 19:44
If you copy a significant part of a work, then yes, you could be liable. If the author hasn't given a specific license (which is the case here, since we're ignoring the untrustworthy non-author B), the default license of the unknown author's work is "all rights reserved."
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 19:44
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The author of the book has no right to use the text from the article unless permisison has been granted by to holder of the copyright in that article. Since it was taken from a source now known to be infringing, and the original source is not known, it may not legitimately be used until the true author comes forward and grants permission, unless the use would fall under fair use (in the US) or some simialr fair dealing concept (in those countries where that applies).
Of course, the author of the book will suffer no legal penalty unless and until after the true author does come forward and files suit. But the book author could hardly claim 'innocent infringement". The book author is on notice that text has been used with no valid license or grant of permission. It is the book author's responsibility not to use other people's work unless it is in the public domain or permission has been granted in some way.
Also, a book publisher would be jointly liable in such a case, and might choose to withdraw the book from publication unless some suitable correction is made.
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The author of the book has no right to use the text from the article unless permisison has been granted by to holder of the copyright in that article. Since it was taken from a source now known to be infringing, and the original source is not known, it may not legitimately be used until the true author comes forward and grants permission, unless the use would fall under fair use (in the US) or some simialr fair dealing concept (in those countries where that applies).
Of course, the author of the book will suffer no legal penalty unless and until after the true author does come forward and files suit. But the book author could hardly claim 'innocent infringement". The book author is on notice that text has been used with no valid license or grant of permission. It is the book author's responsibility not to use other people's work unless it is in the public domain or permission has been granted in some way.
Also, a book publisher would be jointly liable in such a case, and might choose to withdraw the book from publication unless some suitable correction is made.
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The author of the book has no right to use the text from the article unless permisison has been granted by to holder of the copyright in that article. Since it was taken from a source now known to be infringing, and the original source is not known, it may not legitimately be used until the true author comes forward and grants permission, unless the use would fall under fair use (in the US) or some simialr fair dealing concept (in those countries where that applies).
Of course, the author of the book will suffer no legal penalty unless and until after the true author does come forward and files suit. But the book author could hardly claim 'innocent infringement". The book author is on notice that text has been used with no valid license or grant of permission. It is the book author's responsibility not to use other people's work unless it is in the public domain or permission has been granted in some way.
Also, a book publisher would be jointly liable in such a case, and might choose to withdraw the book from publication unless some suitable correction is made.
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The author of the book has no right to use the text from the article unless permisison has been granted by to holder of the copyright in that article. Since it was taken from a source now known to be infringing, and the original source is not known, it may not legitimately be used until the true author comes forward and grants permission, unless the use would fall under fair use (in the US) or some simialr fair dealing concept (in those countries where that applies).
Of course, the author of the book will suffer no legal penalty unless and until after the true author does come forward and files suit. But the book author could hardly claim 'innocent infringement". The book author is on notice that text has been used with no valid license or grant of permission. It is the book author's responsibility not to use other people's work unless it is in the public domain or permission has been granted in some way.
Also, a book publisher would be jointly liable in such a case, and might choose to withdraw the book from publication unless some suitable correction is made.
answered Oct 12 '18 at 2:18
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The author of the book has no right to use the text from the article unless permisison has been granted by to holder of the copyright in that article. Since it was taken from a source now known to be infringing, and the original source is not known, it may not legitimately be used until the true author comes forward and grants permission, unless the use would fall under fair use (in the US) or some simialr fair dealing concept (in those countries where that applies).
Of course, the author of the book will suffer no legal penalty unless and until after the true author does come forward and files suit. But the book author could hardly claim 'innocent infringement". The book author is on notice that text has been used with no valid license or grant of permission. It is the book author's responsibility not to use other people's work unless it is in the public domain or permission has been granted in some way.
Also, a book publisher would be jointly liable in such a case, and might choose to withdraw the book from publication unless some suitable correction is made.
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Under what license did the actual author of the article publish that article? Do you think the book's use of the citation is an infringement under the actual license, not the false one? Related: https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/16415/copyright-vs-right-to-attribution
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 8:04
@Brandin Let's say the actual author is A. And the author I copied from is B (B would have copied from A). A's identity is unknown. It might even happen that A does not exist, that B is lying. B can't be trusted. Should I just keep things as they are until a firm claim appears? Or could I be held responsible for copyright infringement if a real author appears later on and he never issued a license which would allow me to copy that work?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 12:46
Wouldn't it be simpler just to say that you are citing from an author A who is unknown or anonymous? The fact that there is a non-author B who once said he is the author is not relevant to the actual author A's copyright claim.
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 13:06
@Brandin That is a given. B does not desserve at all to be mentioned. But, would it be possible to be liable for citation (an extense one, not a few lines) of an unknown author who appears and assersts his authorship at a later date?
– Jose Antonio Dura Olmos
Dec 5 '17 at 13:13
If you copy a significant part of a work, then yes, you could be liable. If the author hasn't given a specific license (which is the case here, since we're ignoring the untrustworthy non-author B), the default license of the unknown author's work is "all rights reserved."
– Brandin
Dec 5 '17 at 19:44