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How do hiring committees for research positions view getting “scooped”?
How important is the publication venue for academic hiring and grant applications?Applying for posdtoc positions: is it okay to send out many applications?Who is eligible to apply for instructor or assistant professor positions?Do hiring committees actually give preference to underrepresented groups?Are faculty positions more competitive than government research lab positions?Consequences of applying to both research and staff positions at the same school simultaneouslyHiring Process in Norway for PostdocsHow could a postdoc look competitive against a tenured professor?Invited to interview for several postdoc positions - how to proceed?How important is trendiness of the research one works on?
Suppose that an applicant got scooped on a research paper and is applying for jobs. This is reflected in a lack of publications. Is that taken into consideration? Or will it be a huge blow to an applicant's chances to highly competitive jobs?
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They might empathize if you somehow decide to mention it somewhere in your CV/cover letter/research statement/whatever. But in the end, you will be judged based on what you have actually produced. "Getting scooped" is difficult to verify if you have no publications. It's easy to say "I was totally going to say that!" when someone else says something clever. It's another thing to do the research well, write it down, iron out the inevitable kinks, fight with editors and peer reviewers to get your research publish... and to do all that faster than your competitors. Unless you can prove that you have great potential, then it is likely that committee will prefer someone who has published papers over someone who has almost published papers.
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I am afraid that "I've been scooped" during the job interview in academia will be perceived as an upscale version of "a dog ate my coursework" excuse, particularly if a candidate has no publications at all.
- Academic jobs usually require PhD, and PhD students are usually expected to publish a few papers during their PhD. At a very least one would expect papers based on PhD thesis.
- Scooping is possible if the candidate presented their result publicly but was too slow to publish it. In academia "publish or perish" is an important motto, particularly for early and mid-career academics. A proven inability to publish results in time is not something hiring committees will particularly like.
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The OP didn't say they had no publications. Having a dissertation get scooped is fairly common in pure mathematics, especially if the problem is worth working on. In my view, this is really an advising failure, because it's the advisor's job to know who else might be working on a student's problem. But I have no idea how it's viewed by hiring committees.
– Elizabeth Henning
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@ElizabethHenning The OP also did not say they are the candidate.
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They might empathize if you somehow decide to mention it somewhere in your CV/cover letter/research statement/whatever. But in the end, you will be judged based on what you have actually produced. "Getting scooped" is difficult to verify if you have no publications. It's easy to say "I was totally going to say that!" when someone else says something clever. It's another thing to do the research well, write it down, iron out the inevitable kinks, fight with editors and peer reviewers to get your research publish... and to do all that faster than your competitors. Unless you can prove that you have great potential, then it is likely that committee will prefer someone who has published papers over someone who has almost published papers.
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You may not be able to say it, but your advisor certainly can.
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They might empathize if you somehow decide to mention it somewhere in your CV/cover letter/research statement/whatever. But in the end, you will be judged based on what you have actually produced. "Getting scooped" is difficult to verify if you have no publications. It's easy to say "I was totally going to say that!" when someone else says something clever. It's another thing to do the research well, write it down, iron out the inevitable kinks, fight with editors and peer reviewers to get your research publish... and to do all that faster than your competitors. Unless you can prove that you have great potential, then it is likely that committee will prefer someone who has published papers over someone who has almost published papers.
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You may not be able to say it, but your advisor certainly can.
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They might empathize if you somehow decide to mention it somewhere in your CV/cover letter/research statement/whatever. But in the end, you will be judged based on what you have actually produced. "Getting scooped" is difficult to verify if you have no publications. It's easy to say "I was totally going to say that!" when someone else says something clever. It's another thing to do the research well, write it down, iron out the inevitable kinks, fight with editors and peer reviewers to get your research publish... and to do all that faster than your competitors. Unless you can prove that you have great potential, then it is likely that committee will prefer someone who has published papers over someone who has almost published papers.
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You may not be able to say it, but your advisor certainly can.
– Buffy
3 hours ago
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3
You may not be able to say it, but your advisor certainly can.
– Buffy
3 hours ago
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You may not be able to say it, but your advisor certainly can.
– Buffy
3 hours ago
You may not be able to say it, but your advisor certainly can.
– Buffy
3 hours ago
add a comment |
I am afraid that "I've been scooped" during the job interview in academia will be perceived as an upscale version of "a dog ate my coursework" excuse, particularly if a candidate has no publications at all.
- Academic jobs usually require PhD, and PhD students are usually expected to publish a few papers during their PhD. At a very least one would expect papers based on PhD thesis.
- Scooping is possible if the candidate presented their result publicly but was too slow to publish it. In academia "publish or perish" is an important motto, particularly for early and mid-career academics. A proven inability to publish results in time is not something hiring committees will particularly like.
answered 1 hour ago
Dmitry SavostyanovDmitry Savostyanov
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The OP didn't say they had no publications. Having a dissertation get scooped is fairly common in pure mathematics, especially if the problem is worth working on. In my view, this is really an advising failure, because it's the advisor's job to know who else might be working on a student's problem. But I have no idea how it's viewed by hiring committees.
– Elizabeth Henning
1 hour ago
@ElizabethHenning The OP also did not say they are the candidate.
– Dmitry Savostyanov
12 mins ago
add a comment |
I am afraid that "I've been scooped" during the job interview in academia will be perceived as an upscale version of "a dog ate my coursework" excuse, particularly if a candidate has no publications at all.
- Academic jobs usually require PhD, and PhD students are usually expected to publish a few papers during their PhD. At a very least one would expect papers based on PhD thesis.
- Scooping is possible if the candidate presented their result publicly but was too slow to publish it. In academia "publish or perish" is an important motto, particularly for early and mid-career academics. A proven inability to publish results in time is not something hiring committees will particularly like.
answered 1 hour ago
Dmitry SavostyanovDmitry Savostyanov
26.4k1055109
3
The OP didn't say they had no publications. Having a dissertation get scooped is fairly common in pure mathematics, especially if the problem is worth working on. In my view, this is really an advising failure, because it's the advisor's job to know who else might be working on a student's problem. But I have no idea how it's viewed by hiring committees.
– Elizabeth Henning
1 hour ago
@ElizabethHenning The OP also did not say they are the candidate.
– Dmitry Savostyanov
12 mins ago
add a comment |
I am afraid that "I've been scooped" during the job interview in academia will be perceived as an upscale version of "a dog ate my coursework" excuse, particularly if a candidate has no publications at all.
- Academic jobs usually require PhD, and PhD students are usually expected to publish a few papers during their PhD. At a very least one would expect papers based on PhD thesis.
- Scooping is possible if the candidate presented their result publicly but was too slow to publish it. In academia "publish or perish" is an important motto, particularly for early and mid-career academics. A proven inability to publish results in time is not something hiring committees will particularly like.
answered 1 hour ago
Dmitry SavostyanovDmitry Savostyanov
26.4k1055109
I am afraid that "I've been scooped" during the job interview in academia will be perceived as an upscale version of "a dog ate my coursework" excuse, particularly if a candidate has no publications at all.
- Academic jobs usually require PhD, and PhD students are usually expected to publish a few papers during their PhD. At a very least one would expect papers based on PhD thesis.
- Scooping is possible if the candidate presented their result publicly but was too slow to publish it. In academia "publish or perish" is an important motto, particularly for early and mid-career academics. A proven inability to publish results in time is not something hiring committees will particularly like.
answered 1 hour ago
Dmitry SavostyanovDmitry Savostyanov
26.4k1055109
answered 1 hour ago
Dmitry SavostyanovDmitry Savostyanov
26.4k1055109
answered 1 hour ago
Dmitry SavostyanovDmitry Savostyanov
26.4k1055109
answered 1 hour ago
Dmitry SavostyanovDmitry Savostyanov
26.4k1055109
26.4k1055109
3
The OP didn't say they had no publications. Having a dissertation get scooped is fairly common in pure mathematics, especially if the problem is worth working on. In my view, this is really an advising failure, because it's the advisor's job to know who else might be working on a student's problem. But I have no idea how it's viewed by hiring committees.
– Elizabeth Henning
1 hour ago
@ElizabethHenning The OP also did not say they are the candidate.
– Dmitry Savostyanov
12 mins ago
add a comment |
3
The OP didn't say they had no publications. Having a dissertation get scooped is fairly common in pure mathematics, especially if the problem is worth working on. In my view, this is really an advising failure, because it's the advisor's job to know who else might be working on a student's problem. But I have no idea how it's viewed by hiring committees.
– Elizabeth Henning
1 hour ago
@ElizabethHenning The OP also did not say they are the candidate.
– Dmitry Savostyanov
12 mins ago
3
3
The OP didn't say they had no publications. Having a dissertation get scooped is fairly common in pure mathematics, especially if the problem is worth working on. In my view, this is really an advising failure, because it's the advisor's job to know who else might be working on a student's problem. But I have no idea how it's viewed by hiring committees.
– Elizabeth Henning
1 hour ago
The OP didn't say they had no publications. Having a dissertation get scooped is fairly common in pure mathematics, especially if the problem is worth working on. In my view, this is really an advising failure, because it's the advisor's job to know who else might be working on a student's problem. But I have no idea how it's viewed by hiring committees.
– Elizabeth Henning
1 hour ago
@ElizabethHenning The OP also did not say they are the candidate.
– Dmitry Savostyanov
12 mins ago
@ElizabethHenning The OP also did not say they are the candidate.
– Dmitry Savostyanov
12 mins ago
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