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Liability of online service provider for illegal user content?


Website liability for user contributed content that may be unlawful?Remove liability for user submitted contentWhat is my liability for third-party content I host?Website liability for user contributed content that may be unlawful?How does Venmo mitigate liability for illegal transactions?Liability for Client Data ConfidentialityAny liability for receiving mail for elder parentsWhat liability might be incurred for exposing truth in private mattersService provider states I terminated the agreement by moving to a location they do not service, am I liable?Data copyright for public domain content or natural resourcesLegal Liability for mentally infirm













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Suppose someone develops a chat app where you can send messages and pictures. Messages are stored in a database.



The developer, who is also the site owner, would have pretty much access to every messages and pictures sent by the app, via the DB console.



What if one day there are plenty of underage nudes sent everyday? How can the developer protect himself from this?



Can a developer avoid civil and especially criminal liability in such a case?










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Suppose someone develops a chat app where you can send messages and pictures. Messages are stored in a database.



The developer, who is also the site owner, would have pretty much access to every messages and pictures sent by the app, via the DB console.



What if one day there are plenty of underage nudes sent everyday? How can the developer protect himself from this?



Can a developer avoid civil and especially criminal liability in such a case?










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Suppose someone develops a chat app where you can send messages and pictures. Messages are stored in a database.



The developer, who is also the site owner, would have pretty much access to every messages and pictures sent by the app, via the DB console.



What if one day there are plenty of underage nudes sent everyday? How can the developer protect himself from this?



Can a developer avoid civil and especially criminal liability in such a case?










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Suppose someone develops a chat app where you can send messages and pictures. Messages are stored in a database.



The developer, who is also the site owner, would have pretty much access to every messages and pictures sent by the app, via the DB console.



What if one day there are plenty of underage nudes sent everyday? How can the developer protect himself from this?



Can a developer avoid civil and especially criminal liability in such a case?







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    This is now a clearly generic question that does not ask for specific legal advice. Close votes should be withdrawn.

    – David Siegel
    yesterday











  • Related question: Website liability for user contributed content that may be unlawful?

    – feetwet
    14 mins ago












  • 1





    This is now a clearly generic question that does not ask for specific legal advice. Close votes should be withdrawn.

    – David Siegel
    yesterday











  • Related question: Website liability for user contributed content that may be unlawful?

    – feetwet
    14 mins ago







1




1





This is now a clearly generic question that does not ask for specific legal advice. Close votes should be withdrawn.

– David Siegel
yesterday





This is now a clearly generic question that does not ask for specific legal advice. Close votes should be withdrawn.

– David Siegel
yesterday













Related question: Website liability for user contributed content that may be unlawful?

– feetwet
14 mins ago





Related question: Website liability for user contributed content that may be unlawful?

– feetwet
14 mins ago










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Disclaimer:

I'm not directly knowledgeable about which particular laws associate with this kind of issue, but I am reasonable aware of certain best practices and approaches that people take to try and accommodate these issues. Hopefully some sort of answer is better than nothing.



Storage concerns:

For the most part, the long-term storage of any kind of media has all sorts of risks associated with it. You mention texts and photos, but this can expand out to videos or even files in general. Although your example concern is of underage explicit photos, that is only one of many things that could be deemed a problem. Even underage photos that weren't explicit may be considered illegal without the uploader having their parent or guardian's consent. Similarly if the photo was inciting violence/terrorism, showing trade secrets, or even including brand logos, they're all viable issues that someone out there might complain about. As you can't just run each file through a photo identifier to know exactly what it is, you need to accommodate finding these problematic files in a different manner.



Possible approach:

The most common approach I've seen is to include a "Report" feature within your app. Much like a DCMA takedown notice, just because someone uploaded an illegal file to your app doesn't inherently make you a criminal; you just need to act on its removal in a timely manner. Having users report this kind of media will help you sift through most problematic files. I'm not sure, but you may also need/want some sort of contact information as well (e.g. email and/phone and/or PO box to write complaints to).



I'm not sure how fast is timely and I'm not sure whether it is typical for a company to actually delete the item or to just store it separately with some sort of incident identifier. My thought process here is that the police may need evidence if they do find the person who provided such a file and they're actually pursuing them criminally. Similarly, I don't know if it's required to report certain issues to the police or if that's up to the company to follow through with. Depending on your app's growth, handling user's reports could mean you need other people (yes, possibly staff) to help stay ahead of the workload.



It's also important to note that the country you're in and the country the uploader is in could differ. Although their upload could be legally acceptable in their country, if it's not in yours then you still need to act on it because they are using your app and accepted your terms of service. These are all things that an actual lawyer would probably need to clarify, of which I am not one of those people.






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  • Thank you for the reply! Can't the handling and deleting of these files be harmfull to me? I should never be able to see these files...

    – Alexandre Ouimet
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  • So-called "child prn" is particularly hard to handle, because even unknowing possession can be criminal in several countries, including teh US and UK. There it doesn't matter if the owner has seen it or not, merely having such a file can be enough. However, there can be "safe harbor" for things uploaded by a user

    – David Siegel
    yesterday











  • @AlexandreOuimet It's hard for me to give accurate insight on something so broad, but my first impression is that it'd be wild for you to be pursued if your accessing of those files was solely to verify they were in violation of your app's terms. Otherwise, anyone could report any file and make any claim and know that it would be permanently deleted without any questions asked. Sadly, logical responses aren't always legal ones, so it's hard to cover all bases =(.

    – Xrylite
    yesterday











  • @DavidSiegel This seems a bit misleading since it'll be atypical that a prosecution happens off of existence alone— I'm sure it has though. It's more likely that other factors go against you. If you have solid reports that show this isn't an activity you permit (e.g. reports are reviewed and handled within X hours; violations of type Y are reported to officials; clear terms of service of what is not an acceptable file), then your safety net will be much larger. If possession was all it took, anyone could take down services like DropBox or MediaFire with a few strategically uploaded files.

    – Xrylite
    yesterday











  • @Xrylite In fact there have been quite a few prosecutions for simple possession, including cases where a homeowner left a wireless LAN unsecured, and someone nearby used it to download such content, leaving a local copy that the owner had no idea was present. Authorities have discretion, and would not usually prosecute if the thought that the system owner had no knowledge of the content, but that is not a safe support.

    – David Siegel
    yesterday










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Disclaimer:

I'm not directly knowledgeable about which particular laws associate with this kind of issue, but I am reasonable aware of certain best practices and approaches that people take to try and accommodate these issues. Hopefully some sort of answer is better than nothing.



Storage concerns:

For the most part, the long-term storage of any kind of media has all sorts of risks associated with it. You mention texts and photos, but this can expand out to videos or even files in general. Although your example concern is of underage explicit photos, that is only one of many things that could be deemed a problem. Even underage photos that weren't explicit may be considered illegal without the uploader having their parent or guardian's consent. Similarly if the photo was inciting violence/terrorism, showing trade secrets, or even including brand logos, they're all viable issues that someone out there might complain about. As you can't just run each file through a photo identifier to know exactly what it is, you need to accommodate finding these problematic files in a different manner.



Possible approach:

The most common approach I've seen is to include a "Report" feature within your app. Much like a DCMA takedown notice, just because someone uploaded an illegal file to your app doesn't inherently make you a criminal; you just need to act on its removal in a timely manner. Having users report this kind of media will help you sift through most problematic files. I'm not sure, but you may also need/want some sort of contact information as well (e.g. email and/phone and/or PO box to write complaints to).



I'm not sure how fast is timely and I'm not sure whether it is typical for a company to actually delete the item or to just store it separately with some sort of incident identifier. My thought process here is that the police may need evidence if they do find the person who provided such a file and they're actually pursuing them criminally. Similarly, I don't know if it's required to report certain issues to the police or if that's up to the company to follow through with. Depending on your app's growth, handling user's reports could mean you need other people (yes, possibly staff) to help stay ahead of the workload.



It's also important to note that the country you're in and the country the uploader is in could differ. Although their upload could be legally acceptable in their country, if it's not in yours then you still need to act on it because they are using your app and accepted your terms of service. These are all things that an actual lawyer would probably need to clarify, of which I am not one of those people.






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  • Thank you for the reply! Can't the handling and deleting of these files be harmfull to me? I should never be able to see these files...

    – Alexandre Ouimet
    2 days ago












  • So-called "child prn" is particularly hard to handle, because even unknowing possession can be criminal in several countries, including teh US and UK. There it doesn't matter if the owner has seen it or not, merely having such a file can be enough. However, there can be "safe harbor" for things uploaded by a user

    – David Siegel
    yesterday











  • @AlexandreOuimet It's hard for me to give accurate insight on something so broad, but my first impression is that it'd be wild for you to be pursued if your accessing of those files was solely to verify they were in violation of your app's terms. Otherwise, anyone could report any file and make any claim and know that it would be permanently deleted without any questions asked. Sadly, logical responses aren't always legal ones, so it's hard to cover all bases =(.

    – Xrylite
    yesterday











  • @DavidSiegel This seems a bit misleading since it'll be atypical that a prosecution happens off of existence alone— I'm sure it has though. It's more likely that other factors go against you. If you have solid reports that show this isn't an activity you permit (e.g. reports are reviewed and handled within X hours; violations of type Y are reported to officials; clear terms of service of what is not an acceptable file), then your safety net will be much larger. If possession was all it took, anyone could take down services like DropBox or MediaFire with a few strategically uploaded files.

    – Xrylite
    yesterday











  • @Xrylite In fact there have been quite a few prosecutions for simple possession, including cases where a homeowner left a wireless LAN unsecured, and someone nearby used it to download such content, leaving a local copy that the owner had no idea was present. Authorities have discretion, and would not usually prosecute if the thought that the system owner had no knowledge of the content, but that is not a safe support.

    – David Siegel
    yesterday















1














Disclaimer:

I'm not directly knowledgeable about which particular laws associate with this kind of issue, but I am reasonable aware of certain best practices and approaches that people take to try and accommodate these issues. Hopefully some sort of answer is better than nothing.



Storage concerns:

For the most part, the long-term storage of any kind of media has all sorts of risks associated with it. You mention texts and photos, but this can expand out to videos or even files in general. Although your example concern is of underage explicit photos, that is only one of many things that could be deemed a problem. Even underage photos that weren't explicit may be considered illegal without the uploader having their parent or guardian's consent. Similarly if the photo was inciting violence/terrorism, showing trade secrets, or even including brand logos, they're all viable issues that someone out there might complain about. As you can't just run each file through a photo identifier to know exactly what it is, you need to accommodate finding these problematic files in a different manner.



Possible approach:

The most common approach I've seen is to include a "Report" feature within your app. Much like a DCMA takedown notice, just because someone uploaded an illegal file to your app doesn't inherently make you a criminal; you just need to act on its removal in a timely manner. Having users report this kind of media will help you sift through most problematic files. I'm not sure, but you may also need/want some sort of contact information as well (e.g. email and/phone and/or PO box to write complaints to).



I'm not sure how fast is timely and I'm not sure whether it is typical for a company to actually delete the item or to just store it separately with some sort of incident identifier. My thought process here is that the police may need evidence if they do find the person who provided such a file and they're actually pursuing them criminally. Similarly, I don't know if it's required to report certain issues to the police or if that's up to the company to follow through with. Depending on your app's growth, handling user's reports could mean you need other people (yes, possibly staff) to help stay ahead of the workload.



It's also important to note that the country you're in and the country the uploader is in could differ. Although their upload could be legally acceptable in their country, if it's not in yours then you still need to act on it because they are using your app and accepted your terms of service. These are all things that an actual lawyer would probably need to clarify, of which I am not one of those people.






share|improve this answer























  • Thank you for the reply! Can't the handling and deleting of these files be harmfull to me? I should never be able to see these files...

    – Alexandre Ouimet
    2 days ago












  • So-called "child prn" is particularly hard to handle, because even unknowing possession can be criminal in several countries, including teh US and UK. There it doesn't matter if the owner has seen it or not, merely having such a file can be enough. However, there can be "safe harbor" for things uploaded by a user

    – David Siegel
    yesterday











  • @AlexandreOuimet It's hard for me to give accurate insight on something so broad, but my first impression is that it'd be wild for you to be pursued if your accessing of those files was solely to verify they were in violation of your app's terms. Otherwise, anyone could report any file and make any claim and know that it would be permanently deleted without any questions asked. Sadly, logical responses aren't always legal ones, so it's hard to cover all bases =(.

    – Xrylite
    yesterday











  • @DavidSiegel This seems a bit misleading since it'll be atypical that a prosecution happens off of existence alone— I'm sure it has though. It's more likely that other factors go against you. If you have solid reports that show this isn't an activity you permit (e.g. reports are reviewed and handled within X hours; violations of type Y are reported to officials; clear terms of service of what is not an acceptable file), then your safety net will be much larger. If possession was all it took, anyone could take down services like DropBox or MediaFire with a few strategically uploaded files.

    – Xrylite
    yesterday











  • @Xrylite In fact there have been quite a few prosecutions for simple possession, including cases where a homeowner left a wireless LAN unsecured, and someone nearby used it to download such content, leaving a local copy that the owner had no idea was present. Authorities have discretion, and would not usually prosecute if the thought that the system owner had no knowledge of the content, but that is not a safe support.

    – David Siegel
    yesterday













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Disclaimer:

I'm not directly knowledgeable about which particular laws associate with this kind of issue, but I am reasonable aware of certain best practices and approaches that people take to try and accommodate these issues. Hopefully some sort of answer is better than nothing.



Storage concerns:

For the most part, the long-term storage of any kind of media has all sorts of risks associated with it. You mention texts and photos, but this can expand out to videos or even files in general. Although your example concern is of underage explicit photos, that is only one of many things that could be deemed a problem. Even underage photos that weren't explicit may be considered illegal without the uploader having their parent or guardian's consent. Similarly if the photo was inciting violence/terrorism, showing trade secrets, or even including brand logos, they're all viable issues that someone out there might complain about. As you can't just run each file through a photo identifier to know exactly what it is, you need to accommodate finding these problematic files in a different manner.



Possible approach:

The most common approach I've seen is to include a "Report" feature within your app. Much like a DCMA takedown notice, just because someone uploaded an illegal file to your app doesn't inherently make you a criminal; you just need to act on its removal in a timely manner. Having users report this kind of media will help you sift through most problematic files. I'm not sure, but you may also need/want some sort of contact information as well (e.g. email and/phone and/or PO box to write complaints to).



I'm not sure how fast is timely and I'm not sure whether it is typical for a company to actually delete the item or to just store it separately with some sort of incident identifier. My thought process here is that the police may need evidence if they do find the person who provided such a file and they're actually pursuing them criminally. Similarly, I don't know if it's required to report certain issues to the police or if that's up to the company to follow through with. Depending on your app's growth, handling user's reports could mean you need other people (yes, possibly staff) to help stay ahead of the workload.



It's also important to note that the country you're in and the country the uploader is in could differ. Although their upload could be legally acceptable in their country, if it's not in yours then you still need to act on it because they are using your app and accepted your terms of service. These are all things that an actual lawyer would probably need to clarify, of which I am not one of those people.






share|improve this answer













Disclaimer:

I'm not directly knowledgeable about which particular laws associate with this kind of issue, but I am reasonable aware of certain best practices and approaches that people take to try and accommodate these issues. Hopefully some sort of answer is better than nothing.



Storage concerns:

For the most part, the long-term storage of any kind of media has all sorts of risks associated with it. You mention texts and photos, but this can expand out to videos or even files in general. Although your example concern is of underage explicit photos, that is only one of many things that could be deemed a problem. Even underage photos that weren't explicit may be considered illegal without the uploader having their parent or guardian's consent. Similarly if the photo was inciting violence/terrorism, showing trade secrets, or even including brand logos, they're all viable issues that someone out there might complain about. As you can't just run each file through a photo identifier to know exactly what it is, you need to accommodate finding these problematic files in a different manner.



Possible approach:

The most common approach I've seen is to include a "Report" feature within your app. Much like a DCMA takedown notice, just because someone uploaded an illegal file to your app doesn't inherently make you a criminal; you just need to act on its removal in a timely manner. Having users report this kind of media will help you sift through most problematic files. I'm not sure, but you may also need/want some sort of contact information as well (e.g. email and/phone and/or PO box to write complaints to).



I'm not sure how fast is timely and I'm not sure whether it is typical for a company to actually delete the item or to just store it separately with some sort of incident identifier. My thought process here is that the police may need evidence if they do find the person who provided such a file and they're actually pursuing them criminally. Similarly, I don't know if it's required to report certain issues to the police or if that's up to the company to follow through with. Depending on your app's growth, handling user's reports could mean you need other people (yes, possibly staff) to help stay ahead of the workload.



It's also important to note that the country you're in and the country the uploader is in could differ. Although their upload could be legally acceptable in their country, if it's not in yours then you still need to act on it because they are using your app and accepted your terms of service. These are all things that an actual lawyer would probably need to clarify, of which I am not one of those people.







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  • Thank you for the reply! Can't the handling and deleting of these files be harmfull to me? I should never be able to see these files...

    – Alexandre Ouimet
    2 days ago












  • So-called "child prn" is particularly hard to handle, because even unknowing possession can be criminal in several countries, including teh US and UK. There it doesn't matter if the owner has seen it or not, merely having such a file can be enough. However, there can be "safe harbor" for things uploaded by a user

    – David Siegel
    yesterday











  • @AlexandreOuimet It's hard for me to give accurate insight on something so broad, but my first impression is that it'd be wild for you to be pursued if your accessing of those files was solely to verify they were in violation of your app's terms. Otherwise, anyone could report any file and make any claim and know that it would be permanently deleted without any questions asked. Sadly, logical responses aren't always legal ones, so it's hard to cover all bases =(.

    – Xrylite
    yesterday











  • @DavidSiegel This seems a bit misleading since it'll be atypical that a prosecution happens off of existence alone— I'm sure it has though. It's more likely that other factors go against you. If you have solid reports that show this isn't an activity you permit (e.g. reports are reviewed and handled within X hours; violations of type Y are reported to officials; clear terms of service of what is not an acceptable file), then your safety net will be much larger. If possession was all it took, anyone could take down services like DropBox or MediaFire with a few strategically uploaded files.

    – Xrylite
    yesterday











  • @Xrylite In fact there have been quite a few prosecutions for simple possession, including cases where a homeowner left a wireless LAN unsecured, and someone nearby used it to download such content, leaving a local copy that the owner had no idea was present. Authorities have discretion, and would not usually prosecute if the thought that the system owner had no knowledge of the content, but that is not a safe support.

    – David Siegel
    yesterday

















  • Thank you for the reply! Can't the handling and deleting of these files be harmfull to me? I should never be able to see these files...

    – Alexandre Ouimet
    2 days ago












  • So-called "child prn" is particularly hard to handle, because even unknowing possession can be criminal in several countries, including teh US and UK. There it doesn't matter if the owner has seen it or not, merely having such a file can be enough. However, there can be "safe harbor" for things uploaded by a user

    – David Siegel
    yesterday











  • @AlexandreOuimet It's hard for me to give accurate insight on something so broad, but my first impression is that it'd be wild for you to be pursued if your accessing of those files was solely to verify they were in violation of your app's terms. Otherwise, anyone could report any file and make any claim and know that it would be permanently deleted without any questions asked. Sadly, logical responses aren't always legal ones, so it's hard to cover all bases =(.

    – Xrylite
    yesterday











  • @DavidSiegel This seems a bit misleading since it'll be atypical that a prosecution happens off of existence alone— I'm sure it has though. It's more likely that other factors go against you. If you have solid reports that show this isn't an activity you permit (e.g. reports are reviewed and handled within X hours; violations of type Y are reported to officials; clear terms of service of what is not an acceptable file), then your safety net will be much larger. If possession was all it took, anyone could take down services like DropBox or MediaFire with a few strategically uploaded files.

    – Xrylite
    yesterday











  • @Xrylite In fact there have been quite a few prosecutions for simple possession, including cases where a homeowner left a wireless LAN unsecured, and someone nearby used it to download such content, leaving a local copy that the owner had no idea was present. Authorities have discretion, and would not usually prosecute if the thought that the system owner had no knowledge of the content, but that is not a safe support.

    – David Siegel
    yesterday
















Thank you for the reply! Can't the handling and deleting of these files be harmfull to me? I should never be able to see these files...

– Alexandre Ouimet
2 days ago






Thank you for the reply! Can't the handling and deleting of these files be harmfull to me? I should never be able to see these files...

– Alexandre Ouimet
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So-called "child prn" is particularly hard to handle, because even unknowing possession can be criminal in several countries, including teh US and UK. There it doesn't matter if the owner has seen it or not, merely having such a file can be enough. However, there can be "safe harbor" for things uploaded by a user

– David Siegel
yesterday





So-called "child prn" is particularly hard to handle, because even unknowing possession can be criminal in several countries, including teh US and UK. There it doesn't matter if the owner has seen it or not, merely having such a file can be enough. However, there can be "safe harbor" for things uploaded by a user

– David Siegel
yesterday













@AlexandreOuimet It's hard for me to give accurate insight on something so broad, but my first impression is that it'd be wild for you to be pursued if your accessing of those files was solely to verify they were in violation of your app's terms. Otherwise, anyone could report any file and make any claim and know that it would be permanently deleted without any questions asked. Sadly, logical responses aren't always legal ones, so it's hard to cover all bases =(.

– Xrylite
yesterday





@AlexandreOuimet It's hard for me to give accurate insight on something so broad, but my first impression is that it'd be wild for you to be pursued if your accessing of those files was solely to verify they were in violation of your app's terms. Otherwise, anyone could report any file and make any claim and know that it would be permanently deleted without any questions asked. Sadly, logical responses aren't always legal ones, so it's hard to cover all bases =(.

– Xrylite
yesterday













@DavidSiegel This seems a bit misleading since it'll be atypical that a prosecution happens off of existence alone— I'm sure it has though. It's more likely that other factors go against you. If you have solid reports that show this isn't an activity you permit (e.g. reports are reviewed and handled within X hours; violations of type Y are reported to officials; clear terms of service of what is not an acceptable file), then your safety net will be much larger. If possession was all it took, anyone could take down services like DropBox or MediaFire with a few strategically uploaded files.

– Xrylite
yesterday





@DavidSiegel This seems a bit misleading since it'll be atypical that a prosecution happens off of existence alone— I'm sure it has though. It's more likely that other factors go against you. If you have solid reports that show this isn't an activity you permit (e.g. reports are reviewed and handled within X hours; violations of type Y are reported to officials; clear terms of service of what is not an acceptable file), then your safety net will be much larger. If possession was all it took, anyone could take down services like DropBox or MediaFire with a few strategically uploaded files.

– Xrylite
yesterday













@Xrylite In fact there have been quite a few prosecutions for simple possession, including cases where a homeowner left a wireless LAN unsecured, and someone nearby used it to download such content, leaving a local copy that the owner had no idea was present. Authorities have discretion, and would not usually prosecute if the thought that the system owner had no knowledge of the content, but that is not a safe support.

– David Siegel
yesterday





@Xrylite In fact there have been quite a few prosecutions for simple possession, including cases where a homeowner left a wireless LAN unsecured, and someone nearby used it to download such content, leaving a local copy that the owner had no idea was present. Authorities have discretion, and would not usually prosecute if the thought that the system owner had no knowledge of the content, but that is not a safe support.

– David Siegel
yesterday










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