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At the seder, we recide Ha Lachma and say: הָשַׁתָּא הָכָא, לְשָׁנָה הַבָּאָה בְּאַרְעָא דְיִשְׂרָאֵל -- This year we are here, next year in the Land of Israel. Do they say that in Israel?

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  What of Jews living in Egypt ? Did they change the language for leaving Egypt ?
  
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At the seder, we recide Ha Lachma and say: הָשַׁתָּא הָכָא, לְשָׁנָה הַבָּאָה בְּאַרְעָא דְיִשְׂרָאֵל -- This year we are here, next year in the Land of Israel. Do they say that in Israel?

passover-seder-hagada

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asked 4 hours ago

Maurice MizrahiMaurice Mizrahi

2,264315

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  What of Jews living in Egypt ? Did they change the language for leaving Egypt ?
  
  – Noach MiFrankfurt
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  No language was changed.
  
  – Maurice Mizrahi
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  What makes you think that they change it in Israel, then ?
  
  – Noach MiFrankfurt
  4 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  2
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  For Chanukah, “A great miracle happened THERE” is changed to “HERE”.
  
  – JJLL
  3 hours ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  1
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Did they have any authority behind there choices? @joshk
  
  – Dr. Shmuel
  47 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  

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At the seder, we recide Ha Lachma and say: הָשַׁתָּא הָכָא, לְשָׁנָה הַבָּאָה בְּאַרְעָא דְיִשְׂרָאֵל -- This year we are here, next year in the Land of Israel. Do they say that in Israel?

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Ritva interprets this phrase as saying we are now only fulfilling ‘poor mans bread’, next year we will fulfill pesach with all its laws (i.e. the sacrifice etc).

Shiboley Haleket (and Zevach Hapesach) equally hints at this by saying that next year we will preform Pesach properly in Jerusalem. Yaavetz seems to say that being in Israel next year refers to exactly a state in time when we are able to both be in Israel and preform the Pesach sacrifice. Gevuros Hashem adds that although we may be in Israel, since we are still under the rule of others, we cannot build the temple and bring sacrifices, the phrase therefore ends with hope for being freemen next year.

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Ritva interprets this phrase as saying we are now only fulfilling ‘poor mans bread’, next year we will fulfill pesach with all its laws (i.e. the sacrifice etc).

Shiboley Haleket (and Zevach Hapesach) equally hints at this by saying that next year we will preform Pesach properly in Jerusalem. Yaavetz seems to say that being in Israel next year refers to exactly a state in time when we are able to both be in Israel and preform the Pesach sacrifice. Gevuros Hashem adds that although we may be in Israel, since we are still under the rule of others, we cannot build the temple and bring sacrifices, the phrase therefore ends with hope for being freemen next year.

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Ritva interprets this phrase as saying we are now only fulfilling ‘poor mans bread’, next year we will fulfill pesach with all its laws (i.e. the sacrifice etc).

Shiboley Haleket (and Zevach Hapesach) equally hints at this by saying that next year we will preform Pesach properly in Jerusalem. Yaavetz seems to say that being in Israel next year refers to exactly a state in time when we are able to both be in Israel and preform the Pesach sacrifice. Gevuros Hashem adds that although we may be in Israel, since we are still under the rule of others, we cannot build the temple and bring sacrifices, the phrase therefore ends with hope for being freemen next year.

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Dr. ShmuelDr. Shmuel

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Ritva interprets this phrase as saying we are now only fulfilling ‘poor mans bread’, next year we will fulfill pesach with all its laws (i.e. the sacrifice etc).

Shiboley Haleket (and Zevach Hapesach) equally hints at this by saying that next year we will preform Pesach properly in Jerusalem. Yaavetz seems to say that being in Israel next year refers to exactly a state in time when we are able to both be in Israel and preform the Pesach sacrifice. Gevuros Hashem adds that although we may be in Israel, since we are still under the rule of others, we cannot build the temple and bring sacrifices, the phrase therefore ends with hope for being freemen next year.

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answered 16 mins ago

Dr. ShmuelDr. Shmuel

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answered 16 mins ago

Dr. ShmuelDr. Shmuel

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answered 16 mins ago

Dr. ShmuelDr. Shmuel

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answered 16 mins ago

Dr. ShmuelDr. Shmuel

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