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Symmetry in quantum mechanics


Symmetry transformations on a quantum system; DefinitionsQuantum mechanics and Lorentz symmetryGenerators of a certain symmetry in Quantum MechanicsEquivalence of symmetry and commuting unitary operatorConcrete example that projective representation of symmetry group occurs in a quantum system except the case of spin half integer?Symmetry transformations on a quantum system; DefinitionsWhat is the definition of parity operator in quantum mechanics?Symmetry of Hamiltonian in harmonic oscillatorDifference between symmetry transformation and basis transformationSymmetries in quantum mechanicsWhat happens to the global $U(1)$ symmetry in alternative formulations of Quantum Mechanics?













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My professor told us that in quantum mechanics a transformation is a symmetry transformation if $$ UH(psi) = HU(psi) $$



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          In a context like this, a symmetry is a transformation that converts solutions of the equation(s) of motion to other solutions of the equation(s) of motion.



          In this case, the equation of motion is the Schrödinger equation
          $$
          ihbarfracddtpsi=Hpsi.
          tag1
          $$

          We can multiply both sides of equation (1) by $U$ to get
          $$
          Uihbarfracddtpsi=UHpsi.
          tag2
          $$

          If $UH=HU$ and $U$ is independent of time, then equation (2) may be rewritten as
          $$
          ihbarfracddtUpsi=HUpsi.
          tag3
          $$

          which says that if $psi$ solves equation (1), then so does $Upsi$, so $U$ is a symmetry.




          For a more general definition of symmetry in QM, see



          Symmetry transformations on a quantum system; Definitions






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            This is a good answer but it brings to another question, why do we call symmetry this condition?
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          What you have written there is nothing but the commutator. Consider for example the time evolution operator beginalign*
          Uleft(t-t_0right)=e^-ileft(t-t_0right) H
          endalign*

          If $psileft(xi_1, dots, xi_N ; t_0right)$ is the wave function at time $t_0$ and $U(t−t0)$ is the time evolution operator that for all permutations $P$ satisfies
          $left[Uleft(t-t_0right), Pright]=0$
          then also
          $$left(P Uleft(t-t_0right) psiright)left(xi_1, ldots, xi_N ; t_0right)=left(Uleft(t-t_0right) P psiright)left(xi_1, ldots, xi_N ; t_0right)$$
          This means that the permuted time evolved wave function is the same as the time evolved permuted wave function.



          Another example would be if you consider identical particles. An arbitrary observable $A$ should be the same under the permutation operator $P$ if one has identical particles. This is to say:
          beginalign*
          [A, P]=0
          endalign*

          for all $Pin S_N$ (in permutation group of $N$ particles).






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            $begingroup$

            In a context like this, a symmetry is a transformation that converts solutions of the equation(s) of motion to other solutions of the equation(s) of motion.



            In this case, the equation of motion is the Schrödinger equation
            $$
            ihbarfracddtpsi=Hpsi.
            tag1
            $$

            We can multiply both sides of equation (1) by $U$ to get
            $$
            Uihbarfracddtpsi=UHpsi.
            tag2
            $$

            If $UH=HU$ and $U$ is independent of time, then equation (2) may be rewritten as
            $$
            ihbarfracddtUpsi=HUpsi.
            tag3
            $$

            which says that if $psi$ solves equation (1), then so does $Upsi$, so $U$ is a symmetry.




            For a more general definition of symmetry in QM, see



            Symmetry transformations on a quantum system; Definitions






            share|cite|improve this answer









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            • $begingroup$
              This is a good answer but it brings to another question, why do we call symmetry this condition?
              $endgroup$
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              2 hours ago















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            $begingroup$

            In a context like this, a symmetry is a transformation that converts solutions of the equation(s) of motion to other solutions of the equation(s) of motion.



            In this case, the equation of motion is the Schrödinger equation
            $$
            ihbarfracddtpsi=Hpsi.
            tag1
            $$

            We can multiply both sides of equation (1) by $U$ to get
            $$
            Uihbarfracddtpsi=UHpsi.
            tag2
            $$

            If $UH=HU$ and $U$ is independent of time, then equation (2) may be rewritten as
            $$
            ihbarfracddtUpsi=HUpsi.
            tag3
            $$

            which says that if $psi$ solves equation (1), then so does $Upsi$, so $U$ is a symmetry.




            For a more general definition of symmetry in QM, see



            Symmetry transformations on a quantum system; Definitions






            share|cite|improve this answer









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              This is a good answer but it brings to another question, why do we call symmetry this condition?
              $endgroup$
              – SimoBartz
              2 hours ago













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            $begingroup$

            In a context like this, a symmetry is a transformation that converts solutions of the equation(s) of motion to other solutions of the equation(s) of motion.



            In this case, the equation of motion is the Schrödinger equation
            $$
            ihbarfracddtpsi=Hpsi.
            tag1
            $$

            We can multiply both sides of equation (1) by $U$ to get
            $$
            Uihbarfracddtpsi=UHpsi.
            tag2
            $$

            If $UH=HU$ and $U$ is independent of time, then equation (2) may be rewritten as
            $$
            ihbarfracddtUpsi=HUpsi.
            tag3
            $$

            which says that if $psi$ solves equation (1), then so does $Upsi$, so $U$ is a symmetry.




            For a more general definition of symmetry in QM, see



            Symmetry transformations on a quantum system; Definitions






            share|cite|improve this answer









            $endgroup$



            In a context like this, a symmetry is a transformation that converts solutions of the equation(s) of motion to other solutions of the equation(s) of motion.



            In this case, the equation of motion is the Schrödinger equation
            $$
            ihbarfracddtpsi=Hpsi.
            tag1
            $$

            We can multiply both sides of equation (1) by $U$ to get
            $$
            Uihbarfracddtpsi=UHpsi.
            tag2
            $$

            If $UH=HU$ and $U$ is independent of time, then equation (2) may be rewritten as
            $$
            ihbarfracddtUpsi=HUpsi.
            tag3
            $$

            which says that if $psi$ solves equation (1), then so does $Upsi$, so $U$ is a symmetry.




            For a more general definition of symmetry in QM, see



            Symmetry transformations on a quantum system; Definitions







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            • $begingroup$
              This is a good answer but it brings to another question, why do we call symmetry this condition?
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            • $begingroup$
              This is a good answer but it brings to another question, why do we call symmetry this condition?
              $endgroup$
              – SimoBartz
              2 hours ago















            $begingroup$
            This is a good answer but it brings to another question, why do we call symmetry this condition?
            $endgroup$
            – SimoBartz
            2 hours ago




            $begingroup$
            This is a good answer but it brings to another question, why do we call symmetry this condition?
            $endgroup$
            – SimoBartz
            2 hours ago











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            $begingroup$

            What you have written there is nothing but the commutator. Consider for example the time evolution operator beginalign*
            Uleft(t-t_0right)=e^-ileft(t-t_0right) H
            endalign*

            If $psileft(xi_1, dots, xi_N ; t_0right)$ is the wave function at time $t_0$ and $U(t−t0)$ is the time evolution operator that for all permutations $P$ satisfies
            $left[Uleft(t-t_0right), Pright]=0$
            then also
            $$left(P Uleft(t-t_0right) psiright)left(xi_1, ldots, xi_N ; t_0right)=left(Uleft(t-t_0right) P psiright)left(xi_1, ldots, xi_N ; t_0right)$$
            This means that the permuted time evolved wave function is the same as the time evolved permuted wave function.



            Another example would be if you consider identical particles. An arbitrary observable $A$ should be the same under the permutation operator $P$ if one has identical particles. This is to say:
            beginalign*
            [A, P]=0
            endalign*

            for all $Pin S_N$ (in permutation group of $N$ particles).






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              $begingroup$

              What you have written there is nothing but the commutator. Consider for example the time evolution operator beginalign*
              Uleft(t-t_0right)=e^-ileft(t-t_0right) H
              endalign*

              If $psileft(xi_1, dots, xi_N ; t_0right)$ is the wave function at time $t_0$ and $U(t−t0)$ is the time evolution operator that for all permutations $P$ satisfies
              $left[Uleft(t-t_0right), Pright]=0$
              then also
              $$left(P Uleft(t-t_0right) psiright)left(xi_1, ldots, xi_N ; t_0right)=left(Uleft(t-t_0right) P psiright)left(xi_1, ldots, xi_N ; t_0right)$$
              This means that the permuted time evolved wave function is the same as the time evolved permuted wave function.



              Another example would be if you consider identical particles. An arbitrary observable $A$ should be the same under the permutation operator $P$ if one has identical particles. This is to say:
              beginalign*
              [A, P]=0
              endalign*

              for all $Pin S_N$ (in permutation group of $N$ particles).






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                What you have written there is nothing but the commutator. Consider for example the time evolution operator beginalign*
                Uleft(t-t_0right)=e^-ileft(t-t_0right) H
                endalign*

                If $psileft(xi_1, dots, xi_N ; t_0right)$ is the wave function at time $t_0$ and $U(t−t0)$ is the time evolution operator that for all permutations $P$ satisfies
                $left[Uleft(t-t_0right), Pright]=0$
                then also
                $$left(P Uleft(t-t_0right) psiright)left(xi_1, ldots, xi_N ; t_0right)=left(Uleft(t-t_0right) P psiright)left(xi_1, ldots, xi_N ; t_0right)$$
                This means that the permuted time evolved wave function is the same as the time evolved permuted wave function.



                Another example would be if you consider identical particles. An arbitrary observable $A$ should be the same under the permutation operator $P$ if one has identical particles. This is to say:
                beginalign*
                [A, P]=0
                endalign*

                for all $Pin S_N$ (in permutation group of $N$ particles).






                share|cite|improve this answer









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                What you have written there is nothing but the commutator. Consider for example the time evolution operator beginalign*
                Uleft(t-t_0right)=e^-ileft(t-t_0right) H
                endalign*

                If $psileft(xi_1, dots, xi_N ; t_0right)$ is the wave function at time $t_0$ and $U(t−t0)$ is the time evolution operator that for all permutations $P$ satisfies
                $left[Uleft(t-t_0right), Pright]=0$
                then also
                $$left(P Uleft(t-t_0right) psiright)left(xi_1, ldots, xi_N ; t_0right)=left(Uleft(t-t_0right) P psiright)left(xi_1, ldots, xi_N ; t_0right)$$
                This means that the permuted time evolved wave function is the same as the time evolved permuted wave function.



                Another example would be if you consider identical particles. An arbitrary observable $A$ should be the same under the permutation operator $P$ if one has identical particles. This is to say:
                beginalign*
                [A, P]=0
                endalign*

                for all $Pin S_N$ (in permutation group of $N$ particles).







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