Yhyjyk

how can we implement methods in multiples classes if we add methods in interface

I am not able to install anything in ubuntu

An olympiad inequality

How to make payment on the internet without leaving a money trail?

Send two commands to a new terminal?

Is repealing the EU Withdrawal Act a precondition of revoking Article 50?

Why is an old chain unsafe?

LM317 - Calculate dissipation due to voltage drop

Does the average primeness of natural numbers tend to zero?

Could a US political party gain complete control over the government by removing checks & balances?

Wild Shape Centaur Into a Giant Elk: do their Charges stack?

Is this food a bread or a loaf?

Was there ever an axiom rendered a theorem?

XeLaTeX and pdfLaTeX ignore hyphenation

Divisibility of sum of multinomials

Is it legal to have the "// (c) 2019 John Smith" header in all files when there are hundreds of contributors?

How to manage monthly salary

What do the Banks children have against barley water?

How can I fix this gap between bookcases I made?

How to deal with fear of taking dependencies

Doomsday-clock for my fantasy planet

aging parents with no investments

How is it possible for user's password to be changed after storage was encrypted? (on OS X, Android)

Correctly defining the return of a procedure

Why is making salt water prohibited on Shabbat?

2

I have read in a few hagadot, and I think in the OU Pesach guide that the salt water to be used for the seder must be prepared before Shabbat begins. That implied that there is some prohibition for doing this during Shabbat.

What melacha is being performed? Is there a prohibition of dissolving salt in water on Shabbat? Is there some other prohibition that we are concerned with?

passover-seder-hagada melacha-creative-work

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

DanFDanF

35.2k528132

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  "But when Pesach falls on Shabbos, the making of salt water presents a problem as set forth in Simon 321 in the laws of Shabbos." kollelmenachem.com.au/salt-water-on-shabbos.html shemayisrael.com/parsha/ostroff/archives/shabbos74.htm ou.org/torah/halacha/halacha-lmaaseh/…
  
  – rosends
  1 hour ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Hi @rosends Please extract / translate relevant parts and make it an answer, when you can.
  
  – DanF
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

2

I have read in a few hagadot, and I think in the OU Pesach guide that the salt water to be used for the seder must be prepared before Shabbat begins. That implied that there is some prohibition for doing this during Shabbat.

What melacha is being performed? Is there a prohibition of dissolving salt in water on Shabbat? Is there some other prohibition that we are concerned with?

passover-seder-hagada melacha-creative-work

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

DanFDanF

35.2k528132

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  "But when Pesach falls on Shabbos, the making of salt water presents a problem as set forth in Simon 321 in the laws of Shabbos." kollelmenachem.com.au/salt-water-on-shabbos.html shemayisrael.com/parsha/ostroff/archives/shabbos74.htm ou.org/torah/halacha/halacha-lmaaseh/…
  
  – rosends
  1 hour ago
  
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  Hi @rosends Please extract / translate relevant parts and make it an answer, when you can.
  
  – DanF
  1 hour ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

I have read in a few hagadot, and I think in the OU Pesach guide that the salt water to be used for the seder must be prepared before Shabbat begins. That implied that there is some prohibition for doing this during Shabbat.

What melacha is being performed? Is there a prohibition of dissolving salt in water on Shabbat? Is there some other prohibition that we are concerned with?

passover-seder-hagada melacha-creative-work

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

DanFDanF

35.2k528132

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

DanFDanF

35.2k528132

share|improve this question

asked 1 hour ago

DanFDanF

35.2k528132

asked 1 hour ago

DanFDanF

35.2k528132

asked 1 hour ago

DanFDanF

35.2k528132

2 Answers
2

active

oldest

votes

4

Shabbat 108 forbids making a large amount of salt water on shabbat.

Rashi ad loc. explains that the prohibition is because it looks like one is going to be tanning hides, one of the avot melachot. This explanation is echoed by Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 321:2.

Rambam Hilchot Shabbat 22:10 gives a different reason, namely that it gives the appearance of cooking.

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

Joel KJoel K

14.7k22897

add a comment | 

1

According to Shulchan Aruch, OC 321:2 (h/t rosends):

אין עושין מי מלח הרבה ביחד לתת לתוך הכבשים משום דדמי לעיבוד אבל יכול לעשות ממנו מעט לתת לתוך התבשיל ואם נתן לתוכו שני שלישי מלח אסור לעשות ממנו אפילו מעט:

We do not make a lot of salt water at once to put in pickles, because it’s comparable to tanning. However, he is able to make from it a little bit to put in a cooked dish, but if it’s 2/3 salt, it’s forbidden to make even a little bit.

share|improve this answer

edited 8 mins ago

answered 29 mins ago

DonielFDonielF

17k12689

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I’m unclear on if his words “it’s comparable to” indicate that this is Rabbinic, or if it’s a Biblical offshoot (toldah) of the main prohibition (av).
  
  – DonielF
  28 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @JoelK Yes. Is there something wrong with it?
  
  – DonielF
  18 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @JoelK I would have thought that that would be שני שלישית, but Shabbos 108b indicates like your translation. Editing.
  
  – DonielF
  9 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

4

Shabbat 108 forbids making a large amount of salt water on shabbat.

Rashi ad loc. explains that the prohibition is because it looks like one is going to be tanning hides, one of the avot melachot. This explanation is echoed by Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 321:2.

Rambam Hilchot Shabbat 22:10 gives a different reason, namely that it gives the appearance of cooking.

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

Joel KJoel K

14.7k22897

add a comment | 

4

Shabbat 108 forbids making a large amount of salt water on shabbat.

Rashi ad loc. explains that the prohibition is because it looks like one is going to be tanning hides, one of the avot melachot. This explanation is echoed by Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 321:2.

Rambam Hilchot Shabbat 22:10 gives a different reason, namely that it gives the appearance of cooking.

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

Joel KJoel K

14.7k22897

add a comment | 

Shabbat 108 forbids making a large amount of salt water on shabbat.

Rashi ad loc. explains that the prohibition is because it looks like one is going to be tanning hides, one of the avot melachot. This explanation is echoed by Shulchan Aruch Orach Chaim 321:2.

Rambam Hilchot Shabbat 22:10 gives a different reason, namely that it gives the appearance of cooking.

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

Joel KJoel K

14.7k22897

share|improve this answer

edited 1 hour ago

answered 1 hour ago

Joel KJoel K

14.7k22897

answered 1 hour ago

Joel KJoel K

14.7k22897

answered 1 hour ago

Joel KJoel K

14.7k22897

1

According to Shulchan Aruch, OC 321:2 (h/t rosends):

אין עושין מי מלח הרבה ביחד לתת לתוך הכבשים משום דדמי לעיבוד אבל יכול לעשות ממנו מעט לתת לתוך התבשיל ואם נתן לתוכו שני שלישי מלח אסור לעשות ממנו אפילו מעט:

We do not make a lot of salt water at once to put in pickles, because it’s comparable to tanning. However, he is able to make from it a little bit to put in a cooked dish, but if it’s 2/3 salt, it’s forbidden to make even a little bit.

share|improve this answer

edited 8 mins ago

answered 29 mins ago

DonielFDonielF

17k12689

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I’m unclear on if his words “it’s comparable to” indicate that this is Rabbinic, or if it’s a Biblical offshoot (toldah) of the main prohibition (av).
  
  – DonielF
  28 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @JoelK Yes. Is there something wrong with it?
  
  – DonielF
  18 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @JoelK I would have thought that that would be שני שלישית, but Shabbos 108b indicates like your translation. Editing.
  
  – DonielF
  9 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

1

According to Shulchan Aruch, OC 321:2 (h/t rosends):

אין עושין מי מלח הרבה ביחד לתת לתוך הכבשים משום דדמי לעיבוד אבל יכול לעשות ממנו מעט לתת לתוך התבשיל ואם נתן לתוכו שני שלישי מלח אסור לעשות ממנו אפילו מעט:

We do not make a lot of salt water at once to put in pickles, because it’s comparable to tanning. However, he is able to make from it a little bit to put in a cooked dish, but if it’s 2/3 salt, it’s forbidden to make even a little bit.

share|improve this answer

edited 8 mins ago

answered 29 mins ago

DonielFDonielF

17k12689

• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  I’m unclear on if his words “it’s comparable to” indicate that this is Rabbinic, or if it’s a Biblical offshoot (toldah) of the main prohibition (av).
  
  – DonielF
  28 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @JoelK Yes. Is there something wrong with it?
  
  – DonielF
  18 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  


• 
  
  
  

  
  

  
  
  
  
  
  

  
  
  @JoelK I would have thought that that would be שני שלישית, but Shabbos 108b indicates like your translation. Editing.
  
  – DonielF
  9 mins ago
  

  
  
  
  

add a comment | 

According to Shulchan Aruch, OC 321:2 (h/t rosends):

אין עושין מי מלח הרבה ביחד לתת לתוך הכבשים משום דדמי לעיבוד אבל יכול לעשות ממנו מעט לתת לתוך התבשיל ואם נתן לתוכו שני שלישי מלח אסור לעשות ממנו אפילו מעט:

We do not make a lot of salt water at once to put in pickles, because it’s comparable to tanning. However, he is able to make from it a little bit to put in a cooked dish, but if it’s 2/3 salt, it’s forbidden to make even a little bit.

share|improve this answer

edited 8 mins ago

answered 29 mins ago

DonielFDonielF

17k12689

share|improve this answer

edited 8 mins ago

answered 29 mins ago

DonielFDonielF

17k12689

answered 29 mins ago

DonielFDonielF

17k12689

answered 29 mins ago

DonielFDonielF

17k12689