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I have a python program which is, slowly, generating some output.



I want to capture that in a file, but I also thought I could watch it live with tail.



So in one terminal I'm doing :



python myprog.py > output.txt


and in another terminal :



tail -f output.txt


But it seems like the tail isn't showing me anything while the python program is running.



If I hit ctrl-c to kill the python script, suddenly the tail of output.txt starts filling up. But not while python is running.



What am I doing wrong?










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  • 7





    How about python myprog.py | tee output.txt instead?

    – n8te
    20 hours ago






  • 2





    @n8te tee might show the same problem if the program isn't flushing the output buffer regularly. This needs flush() and tee.

    – JPhi1618
    16 hours ago






  • 1





    stdbuf can be used to alter the buffering status of file descriptors.

    – studog
    58 mins ago











  • Terminology: There is no pipe anywhere in this scenario. There's a redirect to a regular file. (Which causes C stdio and Python to decide to make stdout full-buffered instead of line-buffered because it's not a TTY). Pipes are a different type of file (a buffer inside the kernel). I edited your question to correct that.

    – Peter Cordes
    37 mins ago












  • Probably not needed in your situation but if you don't want to terminate the program you can use gdb and call fflush: see stackoverflow.com/questions/8251269/…

    – Mark Wagner
    35 mins ago















18















I have a python program which is, slowly, generating some output.



I want to capture that in a file, but I also thought I could watch it live with tail.



So in one terminal I'm doing :



python myprog.py > output.txt


and in another terminal :



tail -f output.txt


But it seems like the tail isn't showing me anything while the python program is running.



If I hit ctrl-c to kill the python script, suddenly the tail of output.txt starts filling up. But not while python is running.



What am I doing wrong?










share|improve this question



















  • 7





    How about python myprog.py | tee output.txt instead?

    – n8te
    20 hours ago






  • 2





    @n8te tee might show the same problem if the program isn't flushing the output buffer regularly. This needs flush() and tee.

    – JPhi1618
    16 hours ago






  • 1





    stdbuf can be used to alter the buffering status of file descriptors.

    – studog
    58 mins ago











  • Terminology: There is no pipe anywhere in this scenario. There's a redirect to a regular file. (Which causes C stdio and Python to decide to make stdout full-buffered instead of line-buffered because it's not a TTY). Pipes are a different type of file (a buffer inside the kernel). I edited your question to correct that.

    – Peter Cordes
    37 mins ago












  • Probably not needed in your situation but if you don't want to terminate the program you can use gdb and call fflush: see stackoverflow.com/questions/8251269/…

    – Mark Wagner
    35 mins ago













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I have a python program which is, slowly, generating some output.



I want to capture that in a file, but I also thought I could watch it live with tail.



So in one terminal I'm doing :



python myprog.py > output.txt


and in another terminal :



tail -f output.txt


But it seems like the tail isn't showing me anything while the python program is running.



If I hit ctrl-c to kill the python script, suddenly the tail of output.txt starts filling up. But not while python is running.



What am I doing wrong?










share|improve this question
















I have a python program which is, slowly, generating some output.



I want to capture that in a file, but I also thought I could watch it live with tail.



So in one terminal I'm doing :



python myprog.py > output.txt


and in another terminal :



tail -f output.txt


But it seems like the tail isn't showing me anything while the python program is running.



If I hit ctrl-c to kill the python script, suddenly the tail of output.txt starts filling up. But not while python is running.



What am I doing wrong?







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  • 7





    How about python myprog.py | tee output.txt instead?

    – n8te
    20 hours ago






  • 2





    @n8te tee might show the same problem if the program isn't flushing the output buffer regularly. This needs flush() and tee.

    – JPhi1618
    16 hours ago






  • 1





    stdbuf can be used to alter the buffering status of file descriptors.

    – studog
    58 mins ago











  • Terminology: There is no pipe anywhere in this scenario. There's a redirect to a regular file. (Which causes C stdio and Python to decide to make stdout full-buffered instead of line-buffered because it's not a TTY). Pipes are a different type of file (a buffer inside the kernel). I edited your question to correct that.

    – Peter Cordes
    37 mins ago












  • Probably not needed in your situation but if you don't want to terminate the program you can use gdb and call fflush: see stackoverflow.com/questions/8251269/…

    – Mark Wagner
    35 mins ago












  • 7





    How about python myprog.py | tee output.txt instead?

    – n8te
    20 hours ago






  • 2





    @n8te tee might show the same problem if the program isn't flushing the output buffer regularly. This needs flush() and tee.

    – JPhi1618
    16 hours ago






  • 1





    stdbuf can be used to alter the buffering status of file descriptors.

    – studog
    58 mins ago











  • Terminology: There is no pipe anywhere in this scenario. There's a redirect to a regular file. (Which causes C stdio and Python to decide to make stdout full-buffered instead of line-buffered because it's not a TTY). Pipes are a different type of file (a buffer inside the kernel). I edited your question to correct that.

    – Peter Cordes
    37 mins ago












  • Probably not needed in your situation but if you don't want to terminate the program you can use gdb and call fflush: see stackoverflow.com/questions/8251269/…

    – Mark Wagner
    35 mins ago







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7





How about python myprog.py | tee output.txt instead?

– n8te
20 hours ago





How about python myprog.py | tee output.txt instead?

– n8te
20 hours ago




2




2





@n8te tee might show the same problem if the program isn't flushing the output buffer regularly. This needs flush() and tee.

– JPhi1618
16 hours ago





@n8te tee might show the same problem if the program isn't flushing the output buffer regularly. This needs flush() and tee.

– JPhi1618
16 hours ago




1




1





stdbuf can be used to alter the buffering status of file descriptors.

– studog
58 mins ago





stdbuf can be used to alter the buffering status of file descriptors.

– studog
58 mins ago













Terminology: There is no pipe anywhere in this scenario. There's a redirect to a regular file. (Which causes C stdio and Python to decide to make stdout full-buffered instead of line-buffered because it's not a TTY). Pipes are a different type of file (a buffer inside the kernel). I edited your question to correct that.

– Peter Cordes
37 mins ago






Terminology: There is no pipe anywhere in this scenario. There's a redirect to a regular file. (Which causes C stdio and Python to decide to make stdout full-buffered instead of line-buffered because it's not a TTY). Pipes are a different type of file (a buffer inside the kernel). I edited your question to correct that.

– Peter Cordes
37 mins ago














Probably not needed in your situation but if you don't want to terminate the program you can use gdb and call fflush: see stackoverflow.com/questions/8251269/…

– Mark Wagner
35 mins ago





Probably not needed in your situation but if you don't want to terminate the program you can use gdb and call fflush: see stackoverflow.com/questions/8251269/…

– Mark Wagner
35 mins ago










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You may also need to explicitly flush the buffer for it to get piped upon generation. This is because output is typically only printed when the pipe's buffer fills up (which is in kilobytes I belive), and when the stdin message ends. This is probably to save on read/writes. You could do this after every print, or if you are looping, after the last print within the loop.



import sys
...
print('Some message')
sys.stdout.flush()





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    If you have read this far, please don't be thinking of closing and re-opening the file to do this, the seeks will be a problem, especially for very large files. (I've seen this done!).

    – mckenzm
    15 hours ago






  • 1





    You can also use print's flush parameter to do just as well. For example, print('some message', flush=True).

    – Dan
    7 hours ago







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    It has nothing to do with the pipe's buffer, but with the stdout mechanism which doesn't flush after newline if it doesn't write to a tty.

    – glglgl
    6 hours ago


















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Instead of trying to tail a live file, use tee instead. It was made to do exactly what you're trying to do.



From man tee:




tee(1) - Linux man page



Name tee - read from standard input and write to standard output and files



Synopsis



tee [OPTION]... [FILE]...


Description



Copy standard input to each FILE, and also to standard output.



-a, --append 
append to the given FILEs, do not overwrite
-i, --ignore-interrupts
ignore interrupt signals
--help
display this help and exit
--version
output version information and exit


If a FILE is -, copy again to standard output.




So in your case you'd run:



python myprog.py | tee output.txt





share|improve this answer























  • tail in another thread is a good solution for when you've started the application before you decide you want to see the output though.

    – Baldrickk
    11 hours ago






  • 4





    That requires a permanent console session, this is why it’s often much easier to use tail -F or even better the follow function of less. But in all cases the flush should be used.

    – eckes
    10 hours ago






  • 1





    This won't solve the problem that the OP is having. Python's output to the pipe will be buffered just like output to the file.

    – Barmar
    1 hour ago


















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Run python with the unbuffered flag:



python -u myprog.py > output.txt


Output will then print in real time.






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    Another option (if you don't care about the contents, just the progress) is pv:



    NAME
    pv - monitor the progress of data through a pipe

    SYNOPSIS
    pv [OPTION] [FILE]...
    pv [-h|-V]


    Introduce this in your pipeline and it will show you the number of bytes processed as well as the speed they go through the pipeline.



    If the content is what you actually want to monitor, then tee is the best choice, as the other answer indicates.






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      – Barmar
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    Terminology: There is no pipe anywhere in this scenario. (I edited the question to fix that). Pipes are a different type of file (a buffer inside the kernel).



    This is a redirect to a regular file.



    C stdio, and Python, default to making stdout line-buffered when it's connected to a TTY, otherwise it's full-buffered. Line-buffered means the buffer is flushed after a newline. Full-buffered means it's only flushed to become visible to the OS (i.e. with a write() system call) when it's full.



    You will see output eventually, in chunks of maybe 4kiB at a time. (I don't know the default buffer size.) This is generally more efficient, and means fewer writes to your actual disk. But not great for interactive monitoring, because output is hidden inside the memory of the writing process until it's flushed.



    On Stack Overflow, there's a Disable output buffering Python Q&A which lists many ways to get unbuffered (or line-buffered?) output to stdout in Python. The question itself summarizes the answers.



    Options include running python -u (Or I guess putting #!/usr/bin/python -u at the top of your script), or using the PYTHONUNBUFFERED environment variable for that program. Or explicit flushing after some/all print functions, like @Davey's answer suggests.




    Some other programs have similar options, e.g. GNU grep has --line-buffered, and GNU sed has -u / --unbuffered, for use-cases like this, or for example piping the output of your python program. e.g. ./slowly-output-stuff | grep --line-buffered 'foo.*bar'.






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      You may also need to explicitly flush the buffer for it to get piped upon generation. This is because output is typically only printed when the pipe's buffer fills up (which is in kilobytes I belive), and when the stdin message ends. This is probably to save on read/writes. You could do this after every print, or if you are looping, after the last print within the loop.



      import sys
      ...
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      sys.stdout.flush()





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        If you have read this far, please don't be thinking of closing and re-opening the file to do this, the seeks will be a problem, especially for very large files. (I've seen this done!).

        – mckenzm
        15 hours ago






      • 1





        You can also use print's flush parameter to do just as well. For example, print('some message', flush=True).

        – Dan
        7 hours ago







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        It has nothing to do with the pipe's buffer, but with the stdout mechanism which doesn't flush after newline if it doesn't write to a tty.

        – glglgl
        6 hours ago















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      You may also need to explicitly flush the buffer for it to get piped upon generation. This is because output is typically only printed when the pipe's buffer fills up (which is in kilobytes I belive), and when the stdin message ends. This is probably to save on read/writes. You could do this after every print, or if you are looping, after the last print within the loop.



      import sys
      ...
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      sys.stdout.flush()





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        – mckenzm
        15 hours ago






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        You can also use print's flush parameter to do just as well. For example, print('some message', flush=True).

        – Dan
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        It has nothing to do with the pipe's buffer, but with the stdout mechanism which doesn't flush after newline if it doesn't write to a tty.

        – glglgl
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      ...
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      sys.stdout.flush()





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      sys.stdout.flush()






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      • 3





        If you have read this far, please don't be thinking of closing and re-opening the file to do this, the seeks will be a problem, especially for very large files. (I've seen this done!).

        – mckenzm
        15 hours ago






      • 1





        You can also use print's flush parameter to do just as well. For example, print('some message', flush=True).

        – Dan
        7 hours ago







      • 4





        It has nothing to do with the pipe's buffer, but with the stdout mechanism which doesn't flush after newline if it doesn't write to a tty.

        – glglgl
        6 hours ago












      • 3





        If you have read this far, please don't be thinking of closing and re-opening the file to do this, the seeks will be a problem, especially for very large files. (I've seen this done!).

        – mckenzm
        15 hours ago






      • 1





        You can also use print's flush parameter to do just as well. For example, print('some message', flush=True).

        – Dan
        7 hours ago







      • 4





        It has nothing to do with the pipe's buffer, but with the stdout mechanism which doesn't flush after newline if it doesn't write to a tty.

        – glglgl
        6 hours ago







      3




      3





      If you have read this far, please don't be thinking of closing and re-opening the file to do this, the seeks will be a problem, especially for very large files. (I've seen this done!).

      – mckenzm
      15 hours ago





      If you have read this far, please don't be thinking of closing and re-opening the file to do this, the seeks will be a problem, especially for very large files. (I've seen this done!).

      – mckenzm
      15 hours ago




      1




      1





      You can also use print's flush parameter to do just as well. For example, print('some message', flush=True).

      – Dan
      7 hours ago






      You can also use print's flush parameter to do just as well. For example, print('some message', flush=True).

      – Dan
      7 hours ago





      4




      4





      It has nothing to do with the pipe's buffer, but with the stdout mechanism which doesn't flush after newline if it doesn't write to a tty.

      – glglgl
      6 hours ago





      It has nothing to do with the pipe's buffer, but with the stdout mechanism which doesn't flush after newline if it doesn't write to a tty.

      – glglgl
      6 hours ago













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      Instead of trying to tail a live file, use tee instead. It was made to do exactly what you're trying to do.



      From man tee:




      tee(1) - Linux man page



      Name tee - read from standard input and write to standard output and files



      Synopsis



      tee [OPTION]... [FILE]...


      Description



      Copy standard input to each FILE, and also to standard output.



      -a, --append 
      append to the given FILEs, do not overwrite
      -i, --ignore-interrupts
      ignore interrupt signals
      --help
      display this help and exit
      --version
      output version information and exit


      If a FILE is -, copy again to standard output.




      So in your case you'd run:



      python myprog.py | tee output.txt





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      • tail in another thread is a good solution for when you've started the application before you decide you want to see the output though.

        – Baldrickk
        11 hours ago






      • 4





        That requires a permanent console session, this is why it’s often much easier to use tail -F or even better the follow function of less. But in all cases the flush should be used.

        – eckes
        10 hours ago






      • 1





        This won't solve the problem that the OP is having. Python's output to the pipe will be buffered just like output to the file.

        – Barmar
        1 hour ago















      16














      Instead of trying to tail a live file, use tee instead. It was made to do exactly what you're trying to do.



      From man tee:




      tee(1) - Linux man page



      Name tee - read from standard input and write to standard output and files



      Synopsis



      tee [OPTION]... [FILE]...


      Description



      Copy standard input to each FILE, and also to standard output.



      -a, --append 
      append to the given FILEs, do not overwrite
      -i, --ignore-interrupts
      ignore interrupt signals
      --help
      display this help and exit
      --version
      output version information and exit


      If a FILE is -, copy again to standard output.




      So in your case you'd run:



      python myprog.py | tee output.txt





      share|improve this answer























      • tail in another thread is a good solution for when you've started the application before you decide you want to see the output though.

        – Baldrickk
        11 hours ago






      • 4





        That requires a permanent console session, this is why it’s often much easier to use tail -F or even better the follow function of less. But in all cases the flush should be used.

        – eckes
        10 hours ago






      • 1





        This won't solve the problem that the OP is having. Python's output to the pipe will be buffered just like output to the file.

        – Barmar
        1 hour ago













      16












      16








      16







      Instead of trying to tail a live file, use tee instead. It was made to do exactly what you're trying to do.



      From man tee:




      tee(1) - Linux man page



      Name tee - read from standard input and write to standard output and files



      Synopsis



      tee [OPTION]... [FILE]...


      Description



      Copy standard input to each FILE, and also to standard output.



      -a, --append 
      append to the given FILEs, do not overwrite
      -i, --ignore-interrupts
      ignore interrupt signals
      --help
      display this help and exit
      --version
      output version information and exit


      If a FILE is -, copy again to standard output.




      So in your case you'd run:



      python myprog.py | tee output.txt





      share|improve this answer













      Instead of trying to tail a live file, use tee instead. It was made to do exactly what you're trying to do.



      From man tee:




      tee(1) - Linux man page



      Name tee - read from standard input and write to standard output and files



      Synopsis



      tee [OPTION]... [FILE]...


      Description



      Copy standard input to each FILE, and also to standard output.



      -a, --append 
      append to the given FILEs, do not overwrite
      -i, --ignore-interrupts
      ignore interrupt signals
      --help
      display this help and exit
      --version
      output version information and exit


      If a FILE is -, copy again to standard output.




      So in your case you'd run:



      python myprog.py | tee output.txt






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      • tail in another thread is a good solution for when you've started the application before you decide you want to see the output though.

        – Baldrickk
        11 hours ago






      • 4





        That requires a permanent console session, this is why it’s often much easier to use tail -F or even better the follow function of less. But in all cases the flush should be used.

        – eckes
        10 hours ago






      • 1





        This won't solve the problem that the OP is having. Python's output to the pipe will be buffered just like output to the file.

        – Barmar
        1 hour ago

















      • tail in another thread is a good solution for when you've started the application before you decide you want to see the output though.

        – Baldrickk
        11 hours ago






      • 4





        That requires a permanent console session, this is why it’s often much easier to use tail -F or even better the follow function of less. But in all cases the flush should be used.

        – eckes
        10 hours ago






      • 1





        This won't solve the problem that the OP is having. Python's output to the pipe will be buffered just like output to the file.

        – Barmar
        1 hour ago
















      tail in another thread is a good solution for when you've started the application before you decide you want to see the output though.

      – Baldrickk
      11 hours ago





      tail in another thread is a good solution for when you've started the application before you decide you want to see the output though.

      – Baldrickk
      11 hours ago




      4




      4





      That requires a permanent console session, this is why it’s often much easier to use tail -F or even better the follow function of less. But in all cases the flush should be used.

      – eckes
      10 hours ago





      That requires a permanent console session, this is why it’s often much easier to use tail -F or even better the follow function of less. But in all cases the flush should be used.

      – eckes
      10 hours ago




      1




      1





      This won't solve the problem that the OP is having. Python's output to the pipe will be buffered just like output to the file.

      – Barmar
      1 hour ago





      This won't solve the problem that the OP is having. Python's output to the pipe will be buffered just like output to the file.

      – Barmar
      1 hour ago











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      Run python with the unbuffered flag:



      python -u myprog.py > output.txt


      Output will then print in real time.






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        Run python with the unbuffered flag:



        python -u myprog.py > output.txt


        Output will then print in real time.






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          Run python with the unbuffered flag:



          python -u myprog.py > output.txt


          Output will then print in real time.






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          Run python with the unbuffered flag:



          python -u myprog.py > output.txt


          Output will then print in real time.







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              Another option (if you don't care about the contents, just the progress) is pv:



              NAME
              pv - monitor the progress of data through a pipe

              SYNOPSIS
              pv [OPTION] [FILE]...
              pv [-h|-V]


              Introduce this in your pipeline and it will show you the number of bytes processed as well as the speed they go through the pipeline.



              If the content is what you actually want to monitor, then tee is the best choice, as the other answer indicates.






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              • There's no pipeline, just file redirection. And it won't solve the buffering problem.

                – Barmar
                1 hour ago















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              Another option (if you don't care about the contents, just the progress) is pv:



              NAME
              pv - monitor the progress of data through a pipe

              SYNOPSIS
              pv [OPTION] [FILE]...
              pv [-h|-V]


              Introduce this in your pipeline and it will show you the number of bytes processed as well as the speed they go through the pipeline.



              If the content is what you actually want to monitor, then tee is the best choice, as the other answer indicates.






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              • There's no pipeline, just file redirection. And it won't solve the buffering problem.

                – Barmar
                1 hour ago













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              0








              0







              Another option (if you don't care about the contents, just the progress) is pv:



              NAME
              pv - monitor the progress of data through a pipe

              SYNOPSIS
              pv [OPTION] [FILE]...
              pv [-h|-V]


              Introduce this in your pipeline and it will show you the number of bytes processed as well as the speed they go through the pipeline.



              If the content is what you actually want to monitor, then tee is the best choice, as the other answer indicates.






              share|improve this answer













              Another option (if you don't care about the contents, just the progress) is pv:



              NAME
              pv - monitor the progress of data through a pipe

              SYNOPSIS
              pv [OPTION] [FILE]...
              pv [-h|-V]


              Introduce this in your pipeline and it will show you the number of bytes processed as well as the speed they go through the pipeline.



              If the content is what you actually want to monitor, then tee is the best choice, as the other answer indicates.







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              • There's no pipeline, just file redirection. And it won't solve the buffering problem.

                – Barmar
                1 hour ago

















              • There's no pipeline, just file redirection. And it won't solve the buffering problem.

                – Barmar
                1 hour ago
















              There's no pipeline, just file redirection. And it won't solve the buffering problem.

              – Barmar
              1 hour ago





              There's no pipeline, just file redirection. And it won't solve the buffering problem.

              – Barmar
              1 hour ago











              0














              Terminology: There is no pipe anywhere in this scenario. (I edited the question to fix that). Pipes are a different type of file (a buffer inside the kernel).



              This is a redirect to a regular file.



              C stdio, and Python, default to making stdout line-buffered when it's connected to a TTY, otherwise it's full-buffered. Line-buffered means the buffer is flushed after a newline. Full-buffered means it's only flushed to become visible to the OS (i.e. with a write() system call) when it's full.



              You will see output eventually, in chunks of maybe 4kiB at a time. (I don't know the default buffer size.) This is generally more efficient, and means fewer writes to your actual disk. But not great for interactive monitoring, because output is hidden inside the memory of the writing process until it's flushed.



              On Stack Overflow, there's a Disable output buffering Python Q&A which lists many ways to get unbuffered (or line-buffered?) output to stdout in Python. The question itself summarizes the answers.



              Options include running python -u (Or I guess putting #!/usr/bin/python -u at the top of your script), or using the PYTHONUNBUFFERED environment variable for that program. Or explicit flushing after some/all print functions, like @Davey's answer suggests.




              Some other programs have similar options, e.g. GNU grep has --line-buffered, and GNU sed has -u / --unbuffered, for use-cases like this, or for example piping the output of your python program. e.g. ./slowly-output-stuff | grep --line-buffered 'foo.*bar'.






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                Terminology: There is no pipe anywhere in this scenario. (I edited the question to fix that). Pipes are a different type of file (a buffer inside the kernel).



                This is a redirect to a regular file.



                C stdio, and Python, default to making stdout line-buffered when it's connected to a TTY, otherwise it's full-buffered. Line-buffered means the buffer is flushed after a newline. Full-buffered means it's only flushed to become visible to the OS (i.e. with a write() system call) when it's full.



                You will see output eventually, in chunks of maybe 4kiB at a time. (I don't know the default buffer size.) This is generally more efficient, and means fewer writes to your actual disk. But not great for interactive monitoring, because output is hidden inside the memory of the writing process until it's flushed.



                On Stack Overflow, there's a Disable output buffering Python Q&A which lists many ways to get unbuffered (or line-buffered?) output to stdout in Python. The question itself summarizes the answers.



                Options include running python -u (Or I guess putting #!/usr/bin/python -u at the top of your script), or using the PYTHONUNBUFFERED environment variable for that program. Or explicit flushing after some/all print functions, like @Davey's answer suggests.




                Some other programs have similar options, e.g. GNU grep has --line-buffered, and GNU sed has -u / --unbuffered, for use-cases like this, or for example piping the output of your python program. e.g. ./slowly-output-stuff | grep --line-buffered 'foo.*bar'.






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                  0







                  Terminology: There is no pipe anywhere in this scenario. (I edited the question to fix that). Pipes are a different type of file (a buffer inside the kernel).



                  This is a redirect to a regular file.



                  C stdio, and Python, default to making stdout line-buffered when it's connected to a TTY, otherwise it's full-buffered. Line-buffered means the buffer is flushed after a newline. Full-buffered means it's only flushed to become visible to the OS (i.e. with a write() system call) when it's full.



                  You will see output eventually, in chunks of maybe 4kiB at a time. (I don't know the default buffer size.) This is generally more efficient, and means fewer writes to your actual disk. But not great for interactive monitoring, because output is hidden inside the memory of the writing process until it's flushed.



                  On Stack Overflow, there's a Disable output buffering Python Q&A which lists many ways to get unbuffered (or line-buffered?) output to stdout in Python. The question itself summarizes the answers.



                  Options include running python -u (Or I guess putting #!/usr/bin/python -u at the top of your script), or using the PYTHONUNBUFFERED environment variable for that program. Or explicit flushing after some/all print functions, like @Davey's answer suggests.




                  Some other programs have similar options, e.g. GNU grep has --line-buffered, and GNU sed has -u / --unbuffered, for use-cases like this, or for example piping the output of your python program. e.g. ./slowly-output-stuff | grep --line-buffered 'foo.*bar'.






                  share|improve this answer













                  Terminology: There is no pipe anywhere in this scenario. (I edited the question to fix that). Pipes are a different type of file (a buffer inside the kernel).



                  This is a redirect to a regular file.



                  C stdio, and Python, default to making stdout line-buffered when it's connected to a TTY, otherwise it's full-buffered. Line-buffered means the buffer is flushed after a newline. Full-buffered means it's only flushed to become visible to the OS (i.e. with a write() system call) when it's full.



                  You will see output eventually, in chunks of maybe 4kiB at a time. (I don't know the default buffer size.) This is generally more efficient, and means fewer writes to your actual disk. But not great for interactive monitoring, because output is hidden inside the memory of the writing process until it's flushed.



                  On Stack Overflow, there's a Disable output buffering Python Q&A which lists many ways to get unbuffered (or line-buffered?) output to stdout in Python. The question itself summarizes the answers.



                  Options include running python -u (Or I guess putting #!/usr/bin/python -u at the top of your script), or using the PYTHONUNBUFFERED environment variable for that program. Or explicit flushing after some/all print functions, like @Davey's answer suggests.




                  Some other programs have similar options, e.g. GNU grep has --line-buffered, and GNU sed has -u / --unbuffered, for use-cases like this, or for example piping the output of your python program. e.g. ./slowly-output-stuff | grep --line-buffered 'foo.*bar'.







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