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Why didn't Khan get resurrected in the Genesis Explosion?



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In the end of (1980s) Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, as the Enterprise escapes the nebula, leaving the dying Reliant behind, we see Khan engaging the memory banks of the Genesis device.



Later we see Spock's coffin torpedo ends up on the newly formed Genesis planet and as part of the result of the Genesis effect, clearly gets resurrected.



Wouldn't Khan have been resurrected too? Although, yes, Reliant was destroyed by the Genesis wave explosion, shouldn't he (and his crew??) have been resurrected as a by-product of the Genesis effect as well?










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    Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"

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  • Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.

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In the end of (1980s) Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, as the Enterprise escapes the nebula, leaving the dying Reliant behind, we see Khan engaging the memory banks of the Genesis device.



Later we see Spock's coffin torpedo ends up on the newly formed Genesis planet and as part of the result of the Genesis effect, clearly gets resurrected.



Wouldn't Khan have been resurrected too? Although, yes, Reliant was destroyed by the Genesis wave explosion, shouldn't he (and his crew??) have been resurrected as a by-product of the Genesis effect as well?










share|improve this question



















  • 3





    Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"

    – NKCampbell
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  • Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.

    – Gaultheria
    8 mins ago













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In the end of (1980s) Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, as the Enterprise escapes the nebula, leaving the dying Reliant behind, we see Khan engaging the memory banks of the Genesis device.



Later we see Spock's coffin torpedo ends up on the newly formed Genesis planet and as part of the result of the Genesis effect, clearly gets resurrected.



Wouldn't Khan have been resurrected too? Although, yes, Reliant was destroyed by the Genesis wave explosion, shouldn't he (and his crew??) have been resurrected as a by-product of the Genesis effect as well?










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In the end of (1980s) Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan, as the Enterprise escapes the nebula, leaving the dying Reliant behind, we see Khan engaging the memory banks of the Genesis device.



Later we see Spock's coffin torpedo ends up on the newly formed Genesis planet and as part of the result of the Genesis effect, clearly gets resurrected.



Wouldn't Khan have been resurrected too? Although, yes, Reliant was destroyed by the Genesis wave explosion, shouldn't he (and his crew??) have been resurrected as a by-product of the Genesis effect as well?







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    Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"

    – NKCampbell
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  • Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.

    – Gaultheria
    8 mins ago












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    Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"

    – NKCampbell
    3 hours ago












  • Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.

    – Gaultheria
    8 mins ago







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Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"

– NKCampbell
3 hours ago






Khan's body would have been obliterated, blasted into billions of tiny little pieces, and altogether vaporized in the explosion, as opposed to Spock, whose carcass was torpedoed to the burgeoning Genesis planet? Remember, the wave destroys life, "in favour of its new matrix.". Khan and his crew were caught up in the destructive, life-killing part of the wave.. Spock's body was part of the 'new matrix"

– NKCampbell
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Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.

– Gaultheria
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Maybe he did, in the centre of the planet. Being confined, for his pride and rebellion, in something geometrically resembling the Ninth Circle of Hell seems appropriate for someone who quotes Milton.

– Gaultheria
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As observed in this dialogue from the movie:




McCoy: Dear Lord. You think we're intelligent enough to... suppose... what if this thing were used where life already exists?



Spock: It would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix.




Khan and his gang were literally at ground zero supplying the detonating Genesis Device with raw material. Spock came in much later, comparatively, to be exposed to a slow "simmer" of the cooling Genesis Effect.






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    The Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody.



    Spock was launched towards the new sun after it had formed; his pod accidentally soft-landed on the planet.



    From The Wrath of Kahn (emphasis added):




    KIRK: We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honoured dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world, a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel that sacrifice a vain or empty one... and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, ...his was the most ...human.




    From The Search for Spock:




    SAAVIK: Metallic mass.



    DAVID: Close-range scan. ...A photon tube! ...Gravitational fields were in flux. ...It must have soft-landed!



    ESTEBAN: In code to Starfleet. 'Captain's Spock's tube located on Genesis surface.'




    Considering the state of Enterprise's torpedo room after the battle, it is not surprising that they missed.






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      As observed in this dialogue from the movie:




      McCoy: Dear Lord. You think we're intelligent enough to... suppose... what if this thing were used where life already exists?



      Spock: It would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix.




      Khan and his gang were literally at ground zero supplying the detonating Genesis Device with raw material. Spock came in much later, comparatively, to be exposed to a slow "simmer" of the cooling Genesis Effect.






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        As observed in this dialogue from the movie:




        McCoy: Dear Lord. You think we're intelligent enough to... suppose... what if this thing were used where life already exists?



        Spock: It would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix.




        Khan and his gang were literally at ground zero supplying the detonating Genesis Device with raw material. Spock came in much later, comparatively, to be exposed to a slow "simmer" of the cooling Genesis Effect.






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          As observed in this dialogue from the movie:




          McCoy: Dear Lord. You think we're intelligent enough to... suppose... what if this thing were used where life already exists?



          Spock: It would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix.




          Khan and his gang were literally at ground zero supplying the detonating Genesis Device with raw material. Spock came in much later, comparatively, to be exposed to a slow "simmer" of the cooling Genesis Effect.






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          As observed in this dialogue from the movie:




          McCoy: Dear Lord. You think we're intelligent enough to... suppose... what if this thing were used where life already exists?



          Spock: It would destroy such life in favor of its new matrix.




          Khan and his gang were literally at ground zero supplying the detonating Genesis Device with raw material. Spock came in much later, comparatively, to be exposed to a slow "simmer" of the cooling Genesis Effect.







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              The Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody.



              Spock was launched towards the new sun after it had formed; his pod accidentally soft-landed on the planet.



              From The Wrath of Kahn (emphasis added):




              KIRK: We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honoured dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world, a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel that sacrifice a vain or empty one... and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, ...his was the most ...human.




              From The Search for Spock:




              SAAVIK: Metallic mass.



              DAVID: Close-range scan. ...A photon tube! ...Gravitational fields were in flux. ...It must have soft-landed!



              ESTEBAN: In code to Starfleet. 'Captain's Spock's tube located on Genesis surface.'




              Considering the state of Enterprise's torpedo room after the battle, it is not surprising that they missed.






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                The Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody.



                Spock was launched towards the new sun after it had formed; his pod accidentally soft-landed on the planet.



                From The Wrath of Kahn (emphasis added):




                KIRK: We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honoured dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world, a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel that sacrifice a vain or empty one... and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, ...his was the most ...human.




                From The Search for Spock:




                SAAVIK: Metallic mass.



                DAVID: Close-range scan. ...A photon tube! ...Gravitational fields were in flux. ...It must have soft-landed!



                ESTEBAN: In code to Starfleet. 'Captain's Spock's tube located on Genesis surface.'




                Considering the state of Enterprise's torpedo room after the battle, it is not surprising that they missed.






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                  The Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody.



                  Spock was launched towards the new sun after it had formed; his pod accidentally soft-landed on the planet.



                  From The Wrath of Kahn (emphasis added):




                  KIRK: We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honoured dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world, a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel that sacrifice a vain or empty one... and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, ...his was the most ...human.




                  From The Search for Spock:




                  SAAVIK: Metallic mass.



                  DAVID: Close-range scan. ...A photon tube! ...Gravitational fields were in flux. ...It must have soft-landed!



                  ESTEBAN: In code to Starfleet. 'Captain's Spock's tube located on Genesis surface.'




                  Considering the state of Enterprise's torpedo room after the battle, it is not surprising that they missed.






                  share|improve this answer













                  The Genesis Device detonation didn't resurrect anybody.



                  Spock was launched towards the new sun after it had formed; his pod accidentally soft-landed on the planet.



                  From The Wrath of Kahn (emphasis added):




                  KIRK: We are assembled here today to pay final respects to our honoured dead. And yet it should be noted that in the midst of our sorrow, this death takes place in the shadow of new life, the sunrise of a new world, a world that our beloved comrade gave his life to protect and nourish. He did not feel that sacrifice a vain or empty one... and we will not debate his profound wisdom at these proceedings. Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, ...his was the most ...human.




                  From The Search for Spock:




                  SAAVIK: Metallic mass.



                  DAVID: Close-range scan. ...A photon tube! ...Gravitational fields were in flux. ...It must have soft-landed!



                  ESTEBAN: In code to Starfleet. 'Captain's Spock's tube located on Genesis surface.'




                  Considering the state of Enterprise's torpedo room after the battle, it is not surprising that they missed.







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