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I tried the following command after watch this video on pipe shenanigans.



man -k . | dmenu -l 20 | awk 'print $1' | xargs -r man -Tpdf | zathura -


It basically prints a list of manpages to dmenu for the user to select one of them, then it uses xargs to run man -Tpdf % (print to stdout a pdf of the manpage git from the xargs' input) and pass the pdf to a pdf reader (zathura).



The problem is that (as you can see in the video) the pdf reader starts even before I select one manpage in dmenu. And if I click Esc and select none, the pdf reader is still open showing no document at all.



How can I make the pdf reader (and any other command in a pipe chain) to only run when its input reach a end-of-file or when it receives an input at all? Or, alternatively, how can I make a pipe chain to stop after one of the chained commands returns a non-zero exit status (so that if dmenu returns an error for not selecting an option, the following commands are not run)?










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  • 1





    What shell are you using? Is this bash?

    – terdon
    6 hours ago











  • I've tried it on bash, zsh, and sh. All of them had the same behavior.

    – Seninha
    31 mins ago






  • 1





    Yes, the behavior is standard, I asked which shell because of bash's pipefail option mentioned in Kusalandanda's answer.

    – terdon
    27 mins ago

















4















I tried the following command after watch this video on pipe shenanigans.



man -k . | dmenu -l 20 | awk 'print $1' | xargs -r man -Tpdf | zathura -


It basically prints a list of manpages to dmenu for the user to select one of them, then it uses xargs to run man -Tpdf % (print to stdout a pdf of the manpage git from the xargs' input) and pass the pdf to a pdf reader (zathura).



The problem is that (as you can see in the video) the pdf reader starts even before I select one manpage in dmenu. And if I click Esc and select none, the pdf reader is still open showing no document at all.



How can I make the pdf reader (and any other command in a pipe chain) to only run when its input reach a end-of-file or when it receives an input at all? Or, alternatively, how can I make a pipe chain to stop after one of the chained commands returns a non-zero exit status (so that if dmenu returns an error for not selecting an option, the following commands are not run)?










share|improve this question

















  • 1





    What shell are you using? Is this bash?

    – terdon
    6 hours ago











  • I've tried it on bash, zsh, and sh. All of them had the same behavior.

    – Seninha
    31 mins ago






  • 1





    Yes, the behavior is standard, I asked which shell because of bash's pipefail option mentioned in Kusalandanda's answer.

    – terdon
    27 mins ago













4












4








4








I tried the following command after watch this video on pipe shenanigans.



man -k . | dmenu -l 20 | awk 'print $1' | xargs -r man -Tpdf | zathura -


It basically prints a list of manpages to dmenu for the user to select one of them, then it uses xargs to run man -Tpdf % (print to stdout a pdf of the manpage git from the xargs' input) and pass the pdf to a pdf reader (zathura).



The problem is that (as you can see in the video) the pdf reader starts even before I select one manpage in dmenu. And if I click Esc and select none, the pdf reader is still open showing no document at all.



How can I make the pdf reader (and any other command in a pipe chain) to only run when its input reach a end-of-file or when it receives an input at all? Or, alternatively, how can I make a pipe chain to stop after one of the chained commands returns a non-zero exit status (so that if dmenu returns an error for not selecting an option, the following commands are not run)?










share|improve this question














I tried the following command after watch this video on pipe shenanigans.



man -k . | dmenu -l 20 | awk 'print $1' | xargs -r man -Tpdf | zathura -


It basically prints a list of manpages to dmenu for the user to select one of them, then it uses xargs to run man -Tpdf % (print to stdout a pdf of the manpage git from the xargs' input) and pass the pdf to a pdf reader (zathura).



The problem is that (as you can see in the video) the pdf reader starts even before I select one manpage in dmenu. And if I click Esc and select none, the pdf reader is still open showing no document at all.



How can I make the pdf reader (and any other command in a pipe chain) to only run when its input reach a end-of-file or when it receives an input at all? Or, alternatively, how can I make a pipe chain to stop after one of the chained commands returns a non-zero exit status (so that if dmenu returns an error for not selecting an option, the following commands are not run)?







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    What shell are you using? Is this bash?

    – terdon
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  • I've tried it on bash, zsh, and sh. All of them had the same behavior.

    – Seninha
    31 mins ago






  • 1





    Yes, the behavior is standard, I asked which shell because of bash's pipefail option mentioned in Kusalandanda's answer.

    – terdon
    27 mins ago












  • 1





    What shell are you using? Is this bash?

    – terdon
    6 hours ago











  • I've tried it on bash, zsh, and sh. All of them had the same behavior.

    – Seninha
    31 mins ago






  • 1





    Yes, the behavior is standard, I asked which shell because of bash's pipefail option mentioned in Kusalandanda's answer.

    – terdon
    27 mins ago







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1





What shell are you using? Is this bash?

– terdon
6 hours ago





What shell are you using? Is this bash?

– terdon
6 hours ago













I've tried it on bash, zsh, and sh. All of them had the same behavior.

– Seninha
31 mins ago





I've tried it on bash, zsh, and sh. All of them had the same behavior.

– Seninha
31 mins ago




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1





Yes, the behavior is standard, I asked which shell because of bash's pipefail option mentioned in Kusalandanda's answer.

– terdon
27 mins ago





Yes, the behavior is standard, I asked which shell because of bash's pipefail option mentioned in Kusalandanda's answer.

– terdon
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All commands in a pipeline starts pretty much at the same time. It's only the I/O over the pipe that synchronises them. Also, a pipe can only hold as much information as the pipe's buffer allows.



You can therefore not avoid running one stage of a pipeline, because



  1. the command in that stage is started as soon as all other stages are started anyway, and

  2. if the command did not consume the input that comes in over the pipe, it would block the previous stages of the pipeline.

Instead, write the output to a file while letting the pipeline finish. Then use that file.



Example (as a function taking one argument):



myman () 
tmpfile=$( mktemp )

if man -k "$1"


This additionally would not run the zathura program if the pipeline failed.



In the bash shell, you would also want to set the pipefail shell option with set -o pipefail to have the pipeline return the exit status of the first command in the pipeline that fails. And you would want to make the tmpfile variable local:



myman () 
local tmpfile=$( mktemp )

if [ -o pipefail ]; then
set -o pipefail
trap 'set +o pipefail' RETURN
fi

if man -k "$1"


This sets the pipefail option for the duration of the function, if it wasn't already set, and then unsets it if needed.






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  • 1





    Why rm -f? Are you thinking of cases where the pipe changes the permissions of the tmpfile?

    – terdon
    6 hours ago






  • 2





    @terdon I'm thinking of cases where the temporary file is prematurely removed. rm -f would not error out if the file already was removed (possibly by zathura, I don't know).

    – Kusalananda
    6 hours ago












  • The first function does not work as expected: It will also make zathura show a black window, but now zathura runs after the pipeline finish, rather than running alongside the pipeline. This is because the pipeline returns the exit status of xargs, which is 0. The command that fails in the pipeline is dmenu (which returns 1 when I select nothing). The bash function with the pipefail option works as expected (and in zsh too, which has the same option).

    – Seninha
    3 mins ago



















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Pdf files are supposed to be seekable; any pdf viewer will have to look first at the trailer and from there jump to the offsets from the xref table.



Since pipes are not seekable, zathura is using an obfuscating trick, where it's copying all the input to a temporary file, and then use that temporary file as usually. This kind of "clever" trick is creating false hopes and is leading people to assume that pdf files are streamable.



But anyways, zathura really does wait for the EOF before displaying the document, you don't have to do anything for that to hapen:



(sleep 10; cat file.pdf) | zathura -
# will really show the content of file.pdf after 10 seconds


The problem is that zathura has no option to let it only open the window if the file's OK, and exit with an error case if that's not the case -- it will just stay there as if everything's OK:



$ dd if=file.pdf bs=50000 count=1 status=none | zathura -
error: could not open document # its window still hanging around showing nothing

$ echo $?
0 # really?


So even if you're redirecting the output to a temporary file yourself, and are only running zathura with that tempfile if everything went OK, there's no guarantee that the user won't be served with a black window if zathura doesn't like the output for one reason or another.




Btw,



man -X man


will display a manpage in an X11 window with gxditview, even if it looks straight out of the '70 ;-)



And, of course, you could always use:



... | xargs xterm -e man


which, besides many other enhancements, will let you use regular expressions in searches and proper text selection.






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    All commands in a pipeline starts pretty much at the same time. It's only the I/O over the pipe that synchronises them. Also, a pipe can only hold as much information as the pipe's buffer allows.



    You can therefore not avoid running one stage of a pipeline, because



    1. the command in that stage is started as soon as all other stages are started anyway, and

    2. if the command did not consume the input that comes in over the pipe, it would block the previous stages of the pipeline.

    Instead, write the output to a file while letting the pipeline finish. Then use that file.



    Example (as a function taking one argument):



    myman () 
    tmpfile=$( mktemp )

    if man -k "$1"


    This additionally would not run the zathura program if the pipeline failed.



    In the bash shell, you would also want to set the pipefail shell option with set -o pipefail to have the pipeline return the exit status of the first command in the pipeline that fails. And you would want to make the tmpfile variable local:



    myman () 
    local tmpfile=$( mktemp )

    if [ -o pipefail ]; then
    set -o pipefail
    trap 'set +o pipefail' RETURN
    fi

    if man -k "$1"


    This sets the pipefail option for the duration of the function, if it wasn't already set, and then unsets it if needed.






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    • 1





      Why rm -f? Are you thinking of cases where the pipe changes the permissions of the tmpfile?

      – terdon
      6 hours ago






    • 2





      @terdon I'm thinking of cases where the temporary file is prematurely removed. rm -f would not error out if the file already was removed (possibly by zathura, I don't know).

      – Kusalananda
      6 hours ago












    • The first function does not work as expected: It will also make zathura show a black window, but now zathura runs after the pipeline finish, rather than running alongside the pipeline. This is because the pipeline returns the exit status of xargs, which is 0. The command that fails in the pipeline is dmenu (which returns 1 when I select nothing). The bash function with the pipefail option works as expected (and in zsh too, which has the same option).

      – Seninha
      3 mins ago
















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    All commands in a pipeline starts pretty much at the same time. It's only the I/O over the pipe that synchronises them. Also, a pipe can only hold as much information as the pipe's buffer allows.



    You can therefore not avoid running one stage of a pipeline, because



    1. the command in that stage is started as soon as all other stages are started anyway, and

    2. if the command did not consume the input that comes in over the pipe, it would block the previous stages of the pipeline.

    Instead, write the output to a file while letting the pipeline finish. Then use that file.



    Example (as a function taking one argument):



    myman () 
    tmpfile=$( mktemp )

    if man -k "$1"


    This additionally would not run the zathura program if the pipeline failed.



    In the bash shell, you would also want to set the pipefail shell option with set -o pipefail to have the pipeline return the exit status of the first command in the pipeline that fails. And you would want to make the tmpfile variable local:



    myman () 
    local tmpfile=$( mktemp )

    if [ -o pipefail ]; then
    set -o pipefail
    trap 'set +o pipefail' RETURN
    fi

    if man -k "$1"


    This sets the pipefail option for the duration of the function, if it wasn't already set, and then unsets it if needed.






    share|improve this answer




















    • 1





      Why rm -f? Are you thinking of cases where the pipe changes the permissions of the tmpfile?

      – terdon
      6 hours ago






    • 2





      @terdon I'm thinking of cases where the temporary file is prematurely removed. rm -f would not error out if the file already was removed (possibly by zathura, I don't know).

      – Kusalananda
      6 hours ago












    • The first function does not work as expected: It will also make zathura show a black window, but now zathura runs after the pipeline finish, rather than running alongside the pipeline. This is because the pipeline returns the exit status of xargs, which is 0. The command that fails in the pipeline is dmenu (which returns 1 when I select nothing). The bash function with the pipefail option works as expected (and in zsh too, which has the same option).

      – Seninha
      3 mins ago














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    All commands in a pipeline starts pretty much at the same time. It's only the I/O over the pipe that synchronises them. Also, a pipe can only hold as much information as the pipe's buffer allows.



    You can therefore not avoid running one stage of a pipeline, because



    1. the command in that stage is started as soon as all other stages are started anyway, and

    2. if the command did not consume the input that comes in over the pipe, it would block the previous stages of the pipeline.

    Instead, write the output to a file while letting the pipeline finish. Then use that file.



    Example (as a function taking one argument):



    myman () 
    tmpfile=$( mktemp )

    if man -k "$1"


    This additionally would not run the zathura program if the pipeline failed.



    In the bash shell, you would also want to set the pipefail shell option with set -o pipefail to have the pipeline return the exit status of the first command in the pipeline that fails. And you would want to make the tmpfile variable local:



    myman () 
    local tmpfile=$( mktemp )

    if [ -o pipefail ]; then
    set -o pipefail
    trap 'set +o pipefail' RETURN
    fi

    if man -k "$1"


    This sets the pipefail option for the duration of the function, if it wasn't already set, and then unsets it if needed.






    share|improve this answer















    All commands in a pipeline starts pretty much at the same time. It's only the I/O over the pipe that synchronises them. Also, a pipe can only hold as much information as the pipe's buffer allows.



    You can therefore not avoid running one stage of a pipeline, because



    1. the command in that stage is started as soon as all other stages are started anyway, and

    2. if the command did not consume the input that comes in over the pipe, it would block the previous stages of the pipeline.

    Instead, write the output to a file while letting the pipeline finish. Then use that file.



    Example (as a function taking one argument):



    myman () 
    tmpfile=$( mktemp )

    if man -k "$1"


    This additionally would not run the zathura program if the pipeline failed.



    In the bash shell, you would also want to set the pipefail shell option with set -o pipefail to have the pipeline return the exit status of the first command in the pipeline that fails. And you would want to make the tmpfile variable local:



    myman () 
    local tmpfile=$( mktemp )

    if [ -o pipefail ]; then
    set -o pipefail
    trap 'set +o pipefail' RETURN
    fi

    if man -k "$1"


    This sets the pipefail option for the duration of the function, if it wasn't already set, and then unsets it if needed.







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    • 1





      Why rm -f? Are you thinking of cases where the pipe changes the permissions of the tmpfile?

      – terdon
      6 hours ago






    • 2





      @terdon I'm thinking of cases where the temporary file is prematurely removed. rm -f would not error out if the file already was removed (possibly by zathura, I don't know).

      – Kusalananda
      6 hours ago












    • The first function does not work as expected: It will also make zathura show a black window, but now zathura runs after the pipeline finish, rather than running alongside the pipeline. This is because the pipeline returns the exit status of xargs, which is 0. The command that fails in the pipeline is dmenu (which returns 1 when I select nothing). The bash function with the pipefail option works as expected (and in zsh too, which has the same option).

      – Seninha
      3 mins ago













    • 1





      Why rm -f? Are you thinking of cases where the pipe changes the permissions of the tmpfile?

      – terdon
      6 hours ago






    • 2





      @terdon I'm thinking of cases where the temporary file is prematurely removed. rm -f would not error out if the file already was removed (possibly by zathura, I don't know).

      – Kusalananda
      6 hours ago












    • The first function does not work as expected: It will also make zathura show a black window, but now zathura runs after the pipeline finish, rather than running alongside the pipeline. This is because the pipeline returns the exit status of xargs, which is 0. The command that fails in the pipeline is dmenu (which returns 1 when I select nothing). The bash function with the pipefail option works as expected (and in zsh too, which has the same option).

      – Seninha
      3 mins ago








    1




    1





    Why rm -f? Are you thinking of cases where the pipe changes the permissions of the tmpfile?

    – terdon
    6 hours ago





    Why rm -f? Are you thinking of cases where the pipe changes the permissions of the tmpfile?

    – terdon
    6 hours ago




    2




    2





    @terdon I'm thinking of cases where the temporary file is prematurely removed. rm -f would not error out if the file already was removed (possibly by zathura, I don't know).

    – Kusalananda
    6 hours ago






    @terdon I'm thinking of cases where the temporary file is prematurely removed. rm -f would not error out if the file already was removed (possibly by zathura, I don't know).

    – Kusalananda
    6 hours ago














    The first function does not work as expected: It will also make zathura show a black window, but now zathura runs after the pipeline finish, rather than running alongside the pipeline. This is because the pipeline returns the exit status of xargs, which is 0. The command that fails in the pipeline is dmenu (which returns 1 when I select nothing). The bash function with the pipefail option works as expected (and in zsh too, which has the same option).

    – Seninha
    3 mins ago






    The first function does not work as expected: It will also make zathura show a black window, but now zathura runs after the pipeline finish, rather than running alongside the pipeline. This is because the pipeline returns the exit status of xargs, which is 0. The command that fails in the pipeline is dmenu (which returns 1 when I select nothing). The bash function with the pipefail option works as expected (and in zsh too, which has the same option).

    – Seninha
    3 mins ago














    2














    Pdf files are supposed to be seekable; any pdf viewer will have to look first at the trailer and from there jump to the offsets from the xref table.



    Since pipes are not seekable, zathura is using an obfuscating trick, where it's copying all the input to a temporary file, and then use that temporary file as usually. This kind of "clever" trick is creating false hopes and is leading people to assume that pdf files are streamable.



    But anyways, zathura really does wait for the EOF before displaying the document, you don't have to do anything for that to hapen:



    (sleep 10; cat file.pdf) | zathura -
    # will really show the content of file.pdf after 10 seconds


    The problem is that zathura has no option to let it only open the window if the file's OK, and exit with an error case if that's not the case -- it will just stay there as if everything's OK:



    $ dd if=file.pdf bs=50000 count=1 status=none | zathura -
    error: could not open document # its window still hanging around showing nothing

    $ echo $?
    0 # really?


    So even if you're redirecting the output to a temporary file yourself, and are only running zathura with that tempfile if everything went OK, there's no guarantee that the user won't be served with a black window if zathura doesn't like the output for one reason or another.




    Btw,



    man -X man


    will display a manpage in an X11 window with gxditview, even if it looks straight out of the '70 ;-)



    And, of course, you could always use:



    ... | xargs xterm -e man


    which, besides many other enhancements, will let you use regular expressions in searches and proper text selection.






    share|improve this answer





























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      Pdf files are supposed to be seekable; any pdf viewer will have to look first at the trailer and from there jump to the offsets from the xref table.



      Since pipes are not seekable, zathura is using an obfuscating trick, where it's copying all the input to a temporary file, and then use that temporary file as usually. This kind of "clever" trick is creating false hopes and is leading people to assume that pdf files are streamable.



      But anyways, zathura really does wait for the EOF before displaying the document, you don't have to do anything for that to hapen:



      (sleep 10; cat file.pdf) | zathura -
      # will really show the content of file.pdf after 10 seconds


      The problem is that zathura has no option to let it only open the window if the file's OK, and exit with an error case if that's not the case -- it will just stay there as if everything's OK:



      $ dd if=file.pdf bs=50000 count=1 status=none | zathura -
      error: could not open document # its window still hanging around showing nothing

      $ echo $?
      0 # really?


      So even if you're redirecting the output to a temporary file yourself, and are only running zathura with that tempfile if everything went OK, there's no guarantee that the user won't be served with a black window if zathura doesn't like the output for one reason or another.




      Btw,



      man -X man


      will display a manpage in an X11 window with gxditview, even if it looks straight out of the '70 ;-)



      And, of course, you could always use:



      ... | xargs xterm -e man


      which, besides many other enhancements, will let you use regular expressions in searches and proper text selection.






      share|improve this answer



























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        2








        2







        Pdf files are supposed to be seekable; any pdf viewer will have to look first at the trailer and from there jump to the offsets from the xref table.



        Since pipes are not seekable, zathura is using an obfuscating trick, where it's copying all the input to a temporary file, and then use that temporary file as usually. This kind of "clever" trick is creating false hopes and is leading people to assume that pdf files are streamable.



        But anyways, zathura really does wait for the EOF before displaying the document, you don't have to do anything for that to hapen:



        (sleep 10; cat file.pdf) | zathura -
        # will really show the content of file.pdf after 10 seconds


        The problem is that zathura has no option to let it only open the window if the file's OK, and exit with an error case if that's not the case -- it will just stay there as if everything's OK:



        $ dd if=file.pdf bs=50000 count=1 status=none | zathura -
        error: could not open document # its window still hanging around showing nothing

        $ echo $?
        0 # really?


        So even if you're redirecting the output to a temporary file yourself, and are only running zathura with that tempfile if everything went OK, there's no guarantee that the user won't be served with a black window if zathura doesn't like the output for one reason or another.




        Btw,



        man -X man


        will display a manpage in an X11 window with gxditview, even if it looks straight out of the '70 ;-)



        And, of course, you could always use:



        ... | xargs xterm -e man


        which, besides many other enhancements, will let you use regular expressions in searches and proper text selection.






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        Pdf files are supposed to be seekable; any pdf viewer will have to look first at the trailer and from there jump to the offsets from the xref table.



        Since pipes are not seekable, zathura is using an obfuscating trick, where it's copying all the input to a temporary file, and then use that temporary file as usually. This kind of "clever" trick is creating false hopes and is leading people to assume that pdf files are streamable.



        But anyways, zathura really does wait for the EOF before displaying the document, you don't have to do anything for that to hapen:



        (sleep 10; cat file.pdf) | zathura -
        # will really show the content of file.pdf after 10 seconds


        The problem is that zathura has no option to let it only open the window if the file's OK, and exit with an error case if that's not the case -- it will just stay there as if everything's OK:



        $ dd if=file.pdf bs=50000 count=1 status=none | zathura -
        error: could not open document # its window still hanging around showing nothing

        $ echo $?
        0 # really?


        So even if you're redirecting the output to a temporary file yourself, and are only running zathura with that tempfile if everything went OK, there's no guarantee that the user won't be served with a black window if zathura doesn't like the output for one reason or another.




        Btw,



        man -X man


        will display a manpage in an X11 window with gxditview, even if it looks straight out of the '70 ;-)



        And, of course, you could always use:



        ... | xargs xterm -e man


        which, besides many other enhancements, will let you use regular expressions in searches and proper text selection.







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