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Suppose a paper has authors A, B, C, and D. The first author, A, isn't in academia anymore, and much of my work is inspired by the senior author, D. I've also only communicated with author D.



Can I say/write "author D et al."?



When I looked this up, "first author et al." is the recommended version, but I would rather prefer to say "author D et al."



This isn't for a formal paper submission, but rather for something like a blog post describing my recent findings, which I hope will be published in the near future.










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Suppose a paper has authors A, B, C, and D. The first author, A, isn't in academia anymore, and much of my work is inspired by the senior author, D. I've also only communicated with author D.



Can I say/write "author D et al."?



When I looked this up, "first author et al." is the recommended version, but I would rather prefer to say "author D et al."



This isn't for a formal paper submission, but rather for something like a blog post describing my recent findings, which I hope will be published in the near future.










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  • @AzorAhai k thnx i'll do that in a bit. how do u edit, btw? i dunno how to do it. plz tell me, k thnx

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  • You've already edited to change the title. It's the same button.

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Suppose a paper has authors A, B, C, and D. The first author, A, isn't in academia anymore, and much of my work is inspired by the senior author, D. I've also only communicated with author D.



Can I say/write "author D et al."?



When I looked this up, "first author et al." is the recommended version, but I would rather prefer to say "author D et al."



This isn't for a formal paper submission, but rather for something like a blog post describing my recent findings, which I hope will be published in the near future.










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Suppose a paper has authors A, B, C, and D. The first author, A, isn't in academia anymore, and much of my work is inspired by the senior author, D. I've also only communicated with author D.



Can I say/write "author D et al."?



When I looked this up, "first author et al." is the recommended version, but I would rather prefer to say "author D et al."



This isn't for a formal paper submission, but rather for something like a blog post describing my recent findings, which I hope will be published in the near future.







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    Please edit to use typical English capitalization and punctuation.

    – Azor Ahai
    5 hours ago












  • @AzorAhai k thnx i'll do that in a bit. how do u edit, btw? i dunno how to do it. plz tell me, k thnx

    – user106769
    5 hours ago











  • You've already edited to change the title. It's the same button.

    – Azor Ahai
    5 hours ago












  • 3





    Please edit to use typical English capitalization and punctuation.

    – Azor Ahai
    5 hours ago












  • @AzorAhai k thnx i'll do that in a bit. how do u edit, btw? i dunno how to do it. plz tell me, k thnx

    – user106769
    5 hours ago











  • You've already edited to change the title. It's the same button.

    – Azor Ahai
    5 hours ago







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Please edit to use typical English capitalization and punctuation.

– Azor Ahai
5 hours ago






Please edit to use typical English capitalization and punctuation.

– Azor Ahai
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Your feelings and the journal citation rules might not align the way you want them to be. Therefore, I suggest you stick with the accepted norms and go with author a et al., even if it is an informal conversation or blog.



Using any author other than the first author in citation would not only do injustice to that author, but would also be a disservice to the readers. Readers would probably be confused when trying to find the bibliography of that citation in the reference list.






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Your feelings and the journal citation rules might not align the way you want them to be. Therefore, I suggest you stick with the accepted norms and go with author a et al., even if it is an informal conversation or blog.



Using any author other than the first author in citation would not only do injustice to that author, but would also be a disservice to the readers. Readers would probably be confused when trying to find the bibliography of that citation in the reference list.






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Your feelings and the journal citation rules might not align the way you want them to be. Therefore, I suggest you stick with the accepted norms and go with author a et al., even if it is an informal conversation or blog.



Using any author other than the first author in citation would not only do injustice to that author, but would also be a disservice to the readers. Readers would probably be confused when trying to find the bibliography of that citation in the reference list.






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Your feelings and the journal citation rules might not align the way you want them to be. Therefore, I suggest you stick with the accepted norms and go with author a et al., even if it is an informal conversation or blog.



Using any author other than the first author in citation would not only do injustice to that author, but would also be a disservice to the readers. Readers would probably be confused when trying to find the bibliography of that citation in the reference list.






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