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Usage and meaning of “up” in “…worth at least a thousand pounds up in London”


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Two chairs like that must be worth at least a thousand pounds up in London.




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  • It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.

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  • I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".

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    @TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".

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  • @HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.

    – TrevorD
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  • @TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.

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Two chairs like that must be worth at least a thousand pounds up in London.




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  • It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.

    – Hot Licks
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  • I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".

    – TrevorD
    2 hours ago






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    @TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".

    – Hot Licks
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  • @HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.

    – TrevorD
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  • @TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.

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Two chairs like that must be worth at least a thousand pounds up in London.




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Two chairs like that must be worth at least a thousand pounds up in London.




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  • It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.

    – Hot Licks
    3 hours ago











  • I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".

    – TrevorD
    2 hours ago






  • 1





    @TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".

    – Hot Licks
    1 hour ago











  • @HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.

    – TrevorD
    1 hour ago











  • @TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.

    – Hot Licks
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  • It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.

    – Hot Licks
    3 hours ago











  • I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".

    – TrevorD
    2 hours ago






  • 1





    @TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".

    – Hot Licks
    1 hour ago











  • @HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.

    – TrevorD
    1 hour ago











  • @TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.

    – Hot Licks
    1 hour ago
















It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.

– Hot Licks
3 hours ago





It is ambiguous. On first reading I thought it was saying "a thousand pounds up" -- that is to say "over a thousand pounds". But that interpretation clashes with the use of "at least" to modify the price. It's poorly worded.

– Hot Licks
3 hours ago













I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".

– TrevorD
2 hours ago





I agree with @HotLicks: either "at least" or "up" is superfluous: "... worth at least a thousand pounds" or "worth a thousand pounds up(wards)".

– TrevorD
2 hours ago




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@TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".

– Hot Licks
1 hour ago





@TrevorD - But my point was that, on second reading, you see that it's "up in London". The old "garden path".

– Hot Licks
1 hour ago













@HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.

– TrevorD
1 hour ago





@HotLicks Sorry, I didn't even see that meaning - but I now agree it's ambiguous.

– TrevorD
1 hour ago













@TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.

– Hot Licks
1 hour ago





@TrevorD - Getting it right is probably actually harder for someone coming in and reading an extracted sentence than reading the stuff in a book, since your eyes aren't flowing with the text, and so they tend to "jump ahead" to the phrase without first absorbing the lead-in verbiage.

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"Up" and "down" have meanings that refer to towns, cities, and other possible destinations.



Compare this meaning and example sentence for "up" in the Oxford Learners' Dictionary:




(adverb) 1. towards or in a higher position



They live up in the mountains.




The mountains are in a higher position. It'd be possible to just say "they live in the mountains," but the "up" gives an idea of relative position - they live up in the mountains compared to where the speaker is talking. (The valley? The plains? Anywhere else lower?)



What gets tricky is what precisely "higher position" is referring to. Is it elevation? Latitude? Political or economic prestige? For the last value (prestige) there is a specific meaning for "up":




(adverb) 4. to or at an important place, especially a large city



We're going up to New York for the day.




New York is down in elevation and latitude from Rochester, but someone from Rochester may well go "up to New York."



This adverb up commonly comes before prepositions like "up to," "up in," and "up at." "Down" has a contrasting meaning, and different locales or individuals may have their own idea of whether a city qualifies as "up" or "down" relative to them. (One can use both "down in London" and "up in London.")






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    Can "up" also mean northwards?

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  • @stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.

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  • @Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.

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"Up" and "down" have meanings that refer to towns, cities, and other possible destinations.



Compare this meaning and example sentence for "up" in the Oxford Learners' Dictionary:




(adverb) 1. towards or in a higher position



They live up in the mountains.




The mountains are in a higher position. It'd be possible to just say "they live in the mountains," but the "up" gives an idea of relative position - they live up in the mountains compared to where the speaker is talking. (The valley? The plains? Anywhere else lower?)



What gets tricky is what precisely "higher position" is referring to. Is it elevation? Latitude? Political or economic prestige? For the last value (prestige) there is a specific meaning for "up":




(adverb) 4. to or at an important place, especially a large city



We're going up to New York for the day.




New York is down in elevation and latitude from Rochester, but someone from Rochester may well go "up to New York."



This adverb up commonly comes before prepositions like "up to," "up in," and "up at." "Down" has a contrasting meaning, and different locales or individuals may have their own idea of whether a city qualifies as "up" or "down" relative to them. (One can use both "down in London" and "up in London.")






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  • @stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.

    – Hearth
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  • @Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.

    – Hot Licks
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"Up" and "down" have meanings that refer to towns, cities, and other possible destinations.



Compare this meaning and example sentence for "up" in the Oxford Learners' Dictionary:




(adverb) 1. towards or in a higher position



They live up in the mountains.




The mountains are in a higher position. It'd be possible to just say "they live in the mountains," but the "up" gives an idea of relative position - they live up in the mountains compared to where the speaker is talking. (The valley? The plains? Anywhere else lower?)



What gets tricky is what precisely "higher position" is referring to. Is it elevation? Latitude? Political or economic prestige? For the last value (prestige) there is a specific meaning for "up":




(adverb) 4. to or at an important place, especially a large city



We're going up to New York for the day.




New York is down in elevation and latitude from Rochester, but someone from Rochester may well go "up to New York."



This adverb up commonly comes before prepositions like "up to," "up in," and "up at." "Down" has a contrasting meaning, and different locales or individuals may have their own idea of whether a city qualifies as "up" or "down" relative to them. (One can use both "down in London" and "up in London.")






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    Can "up" also mean northwards?

    – stannius
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  • @stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.

    – Hearth
    3 hours ago











  • @Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.

    – Hot Licks
    3 hours ago













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"Up" and "down" have meanings that refer to towns, cities, and other possible destinations.



Compare this meaning and example sentence for "up" in the Oxford Learners' Dictionary:




(adverb) 1. towards or in a higher position



They live up in the mountains.




The mountains are in a higher position. It'd be possible to just say "they live in the mountains," but the "up" gives an idea of relative position - they live up in the mountains compared to where the speaker is talking. (The valley? The plains? Anywhere else lower?)



What gets tricky is what precisely "higher position" is referring to. Is it elevation? Latitude? Political or economic prestige? For the last value (prestige) there is a specific meaning for "up":




(adverb) 4. to or at an important place, especially a large city



We're going up to New York for the day.




New York is down in elevation and latitude from Rochester, but someone from Rochester may well go "up to New York."



This adverb up commonly comes before prepositions like "up to," "up in," and "up at." "Down" has a contrasting meaning, and different locales or individuals may have their own idea of whether a city qualifies as "up" or "down" relative to them. (One can use both "down in London" and "up in London.")






share|improve this answer













"Up" and "down" have meanings that refer to towns, cities, and other possible destinations.



Compare this meaning and example sentence for "up" in the Oxford Learners' Dictionary:




(adverb) 1. towards or in a higher position



They live up in the mountains.




The mountains are in a higher position. It'd be possible to just say "they live in the mountains," but the "up" gives an idea of relative position - they live up in the mountains compared to where the speaker is talking. (The valley? The plains? Anywhere else lower?)



What gets tricky is what precisely "higher position" is referring to. Is it elevation? Latitude? Political or economic prestige? For the last value (prestige) there is a specific meaning for "up":




(adverb) 4. to or at an important place, especially a large city



We're going up to New York for the day.




New York is down in elevation and latitude from Rochester, but someone from Rochester may well go "up to New York."



This adverb up commonly comes before prepositions like "up to," "up in," and "up at." "Down" has a contrasting meaning, and different locales or individuals may have their own idea of whether a city qualifies as "up" or "down" relative to them. (One can use both "down in London" and "up in London.")







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    Can "up" also mean northwards?

    – stannius
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  • @stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.

    – Hearth
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  • @Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.

    – Hot Licks
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    Can "up" also mean northwards?

    – stannius
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  • @stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.

    – Hearth
    3 hours ago











  • @Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.

    – Hot Licks
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@stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.

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@stannius Couldn't say anything about formal use, but it certainly can in casual use. I've (in the US) seen "up in Canada" used pretty frequently.

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@Hearth - That's because people go to Canada to get high.

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