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What is the most expensive material in the world that could be used to create Pun-Pun's lute?
Can the Druid Wood Shape and Ironwood spells be used to create armor?What could be the levels of the Archendale mounted militia?How does the Chain Spell feat interact with expensive material/experience point components?How can I create a world with realistic demographics that won't overwhelm my level 1 PCs?What happens to a priest travelling from one world to another in the Prime Material Plane?What's the maximum number of dice that could be rolled at any one time?Is there a spell that could slowly crush the victim?Is there supplementary material that improves the adept NPC class?What are the properties of Minor Alchemy materials when used with spells that require special materials?What could be used as a living island supporting a village?
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I want to create a magic item that would be basically a lute left by the almighty Pun-Pun. I highly doubt that he would lower his standards to use pitiful materials like adamantium or platinum. I am wondering what is the most expensive material in the world of Dungeons and Dragons that could be used instead.
Materials from Dragon and Dungeon magazines are welcome. Previous editions would be fine as well, but their value would require a conversion to 3.5.
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I want to create a magic item that would be basically a lute left by the almighty Pun-Pun. I highly doubt that he would lower his standards to use pitiful materials like adamantium or platinum. I am wondering what is the most expensive material in the world of Dungeons and Dragons that could be used instead.
Materials from Dragon and Dungeon magazines are welcome. Previous editions would be fine as well, but their value would require a conversion to 3.5.
dnd-3.5e special-materials
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Thanks for your edit! That makes things much clearer. :-)
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– Rubiksmoose
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Sounds like an invitation to homebrew something...
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@ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
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– doppelgreener♦
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@ZeissIkon This looks like an optimization problem along the lines of "highest price for the seller" optimization. It also has a single criteria.
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I want to create a magic item that would be basically a lute left by the almighty Pun-Pun. I highly doubt that he would lower his standards to use pitiful materials like adamantium or platinum. I am wondering what is the most expensive material in the world of Dungeons and Dragons that could be used instead.
Materials from Dragon and Dungeon magazines are welcome. Previous editions would be fine as well, but their value would require a conversion to 3.5.
dnd-3.5e special-materials
edited 8 mins ago
V2Blast
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asked 4 hours ago
Momonga-samaMomonga-sama
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I want to create a magic item that would be basically a lute left by the almighty Pun-Pun. I highly doubt that he would lower his standards to use pitiful materials like adamantium or platinum. I am wondering what is the most expensive material in the world of Dungeons and Dragons that could be used instead.
Materials from Dragon and Dungeon magazines are welcome. Previous editions would be fine as well, but their value would require a conversion to 3.5.
dnd-3.5e special-materials
dnd-3.5e special-materials
edited 8 mins ago
V2Blast
27.8k598169
asked 4 hours ago
Momonga-samaMomonga-sama
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V2Blast
27.8k598169
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Momonga-samaMomonga-sama
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V2Blast
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V2Blast
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V2Blast
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Momonga-samaMomonga-sama
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Thanks for your edit! That makes things much clearer. :-)
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– Rubiksmoose
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Sounds like an invitation to homebrew something...
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– Zeiss Ikon
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@ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
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– doppelgreener♦
3 hours ago
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@ZeissIkon This looks like an optimization problem along the lines of "highest price for the seller" optimization. It also has a single criteria.
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– KorvinStarmast
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Thanks for your edit! That makes things much clearer. :-)
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– Rubiksmoose
4 hours ago
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Sounds like an invitation to homebrew something...
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– Zeiss Ikon
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@ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
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– doppelgreener♦
3 hours ago
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@ZeissIkon This looks like an optimization problem along the lines of "highest price for the seller" optimization. It also has a single criteria.
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– KorvinStarmast
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Thanks for your edit! That makes things much clearer. :-)
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– Rubiksmoose
4 hours ago
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Thanks for your edit! That makes things much clearer. :-)
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– Rubiksmoose
4 hours ago
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Sounds like an invitation to homebrew something...
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– Zeiss Ikon
3 hours ago
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Sounds like an invitation to homebrew something...
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– Zeiss Ikon
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@ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
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– doppelgreener♦
3 hours ago
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@ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
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– doppelgreener♦
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@ZeissIkon This looks like an optimization problem along the lines of "highest price for the seller" optimization. It also has a single criteria.
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– KorvinStarmast
3 hours ago
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@ZeissIkon This looks like an optimization problem along the lines of "highest price for the seller" optimization. It also has a single criteria.
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Riverine from Stormwrack is water trapped between carefully-shaped walls of force. It’s fantastically expensive (2,000 gp/lb. for non-armor item), would be preposterously difficult to make into a lute, and is basically indestructible. Sounds perfect for Pun-Pun’s lute.
I cannot guarantee that riverine is distinctly the most expensive special material in the game, but I don’t know of any more expensive.
answered 3 hours ago
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I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
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– goodguy5
3 hours ago
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How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
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– Pink Sweetener
3 hours ago
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@PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
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– doppelgreener♦
3 hours ago
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From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
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– KorvinStarmast
3 hours ago
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Star metal at 10,000 gp per pound
Star Metal is the most expensive material I could find. From Forgotten Realms Adventures (2e, p.141):
A typical price was 10,000 gp per pound (22,100 gp/kg)
From Complete Arcane (3e):
Starmetal is extraordinarily hard and is equal to adamantine for all purposes. (...) Creating a weapon of star metal costs 5,000 gp more
For comparison, Mithral is listed as 500 gb per pound under Special Materials. According to Draconomicon (3e) under Trade Goods for calculating dragon hoards, Adamantine is priced the same as Mithral (100 gp for an ore).
So, Star Metal is 20 times more expensive than both materials.
answered 1 hour ago
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switched from "star metal" to "sky metal". One quote referred to it as "starmetal" but that might be the quoted text.
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– Ben Barden
1 hour ago
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@ShadowKras, The page for special materials lists adamantine weapons at an extra 3,000gp. I'm not sure why the Draconomicon lists them at the same price, but from that page we can see that they aren't equal, just based on the differences in the other crafting costs.
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Obdurium (from page 35 of the Stronghold Builder’s Guide) is twice as expensive as Adamantine, but it has 60 hp/inch and 30 points of hardness (both values are 1.5 times that of Adamantine). For a legendary artifact, it seems like a good option. An obdurium weapon costs 6,000 gp more than normal.
Besides the base material, it is also important to consider alloys when determining materials and costs. In particular, Dragon magazine issue 351 (page 45) mentions a special material called “oerthblood” which doubles the hardness of the base material and multiplies the hp by 1.5. For a weapon it raises the cost by 6,000gp.
Assuming lutes are priced similar to weapons, this would make Pun Pun’s obdurium-oerthblood instrument cost an additional 12,000gp for the materials alone. And this isn’t taking into account any non-material features he decided to add into the construction, such as dwarvencraft/elvencraft, skill enhancements, making it a magic or intelligent item, or any of the Artisan Craftsman special properties (described in Dragon Magazine 358).
And for those paying attention, this metal has a hardness of 60 and 90hp/inch.
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Riverine from Stormwrack is water trapped between carefully-shaped walls of force. It’s fantastically expensive (2,000 gp/lb. for non-armor item), would be preposterously difficult to make into a lute, and is basically indestructible. Sounds perfect for Pun-Pun’s lute.
I cannot guarantee that riverine is distinctly the most expensive special material in the game, but I don’t know of any more expensive.
answered 3 hours ago
KRyanKRyan
225k31559962
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I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
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– goodguy5
3 hours ago
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How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
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– Pink Sweetener
3 hours ago
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@PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
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– doppelgreener♦
3 hours ago
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From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
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– KorvinStarmast
3 hours ago
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Riverine from Stormwrack is water trapped between carefully-shaped walls of force. It’s fantastically expensive (2,000 gp/lb. for non-armor item), would be preposterously difficult to make into a lute, and is basically indestructible. Sounds perfect for Pun-Pun’s lute.
I cannot guarantee that riverine is distinctly the most expensive special material in the game, but I don’t know of any more expensive.
answered 3 hours ago
KRyanKRyan
225k31559962
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2
$begingroup$
I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
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– goodguy5
3 hours ago
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How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
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– Pink Sweetener
3 hours ago
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@PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
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– doppelgreener♦
3 hours ago
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From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
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– KorvinStarmast
3 hours ago
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Riverine from Stormwrack is water trapped between carefully-shaped walls of force. It’s fantastically expensive (2,000 gp/lb. for non-armor item), would be preposterously difficult to make into a lute, and is basically indestructible. Sounds perfect for Pun-Pun’s lute.
I cannot guarantee that riverine is distinctly the most expensive special material in the game, but I don’t know of any more expensive.
answered 3 hours ago
KRyanKRyan
225k31559962
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Riverine from Stormwrack is water trapped between carefully-shaped walls of force. It’s fantastically expensive (2,000 gp/lb. for non-armor item), would be preposterously difficult to make into a lute, and is basically indestructible. Sounds perfect for Pun-Pun’s lute.
I cannot guarantee that riverine is distinctly the most expensive special material in the game, but I don’t know of any more expensive.
answered 3 hours ago
KRyanKRyan
225k31559962
edited 1 hour ago
answered 3 hours ago
KRyanKRyan
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answered 3 hours ago
KRyanKRyan
225k31559962
answered 3 hours ago
KRyanKRyan
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I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
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– goodguy5
3 hours ago
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How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
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– Pink Sweetener
3 hours ago
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@PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
$endgroup$
– doppelgreener♦
3 hours ago
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From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
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– KorvinStarmast
3 hours ago
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2
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I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
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– goodguy5
3 hours ago
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How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
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– Pink Sweetener
3 hours ago
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@PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
$endgroup$
– doppelgreener♦
3 hours ago
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From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
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– KorvinStarmast
3 hours ago
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I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
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– goodguy5
3 hours ago
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I think it would help this answer if you shared the cost.
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– goodguy5
3 hours ago
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How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
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– Pink Sweetener
3 hours ago
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How about Riverine, but with a copper coin floating around inside? Would that be more expensive?
$endgroup$
– Pink Sweetener
3 hours ago
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@PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
$endgroup$
– doppelgreener♦
3 hours ago
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@PinkSweetener It might not be any good as Riverine at that point, the same way your boot but with a copper coin stuck in it wouldn't be as valuable a boot as a coinless boot (despite ostensibly costing an extra copper coin).
$endgroup$
– doppelgreener♦
3 hours ago
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From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
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– KorvinStarmast
3 hours ago
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From this site comes "+2,000 gp/lb" as a cost for the material, but I am not sure if that matches the cost from your primary source.
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– KorvinStarmast
3 hours ago
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Star metal at 10,000 gp per pound
Star Metal is the most expensive material I could find. From Forgotten Realms Adventures (2e, p.141):
A typical price was 10,000 gp per pound (22,100 gp/kg)
From Complete Arcane (3e):
Starmetal is extraordinarily hard and is equal to adamantine for all purposes. (...) Creating a weapon of star metal costs 5,000 gp more
For comparison, Mithral is listed as 500 gb per pound under Special Materials. According to Draconomicon (3e) under Trade Goods for calculating dragon hoards, Adamantine is priced the same as Mithral (100 gp for an ore).
So, Star Metal is 20 times more expensive than both materials.
answered 1 hour ago
ShadowKrasShadowKras
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switched from "star metal" to "sky metal". One quote referred to it as "starmetal" but that might be the quoted text.
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– Ben Barden
1 hour ago
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@ShadowKras, The page for special materials lists adamantine weapons at an extra 3,000gp. I'm not sure why the Draconomicon lists them at the same price, but from that page we can see that they aren't equal, just based on the differences in the other crafting costs.
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– Benjamin
15 mins ago
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Star metal at 10,000 gp per pound
Star Metal is the most expensive material I could find. From Forgotten Realms Adventures (2e, p.141):
A typical price was 10,000 gp per pound (22,100 gp/kg)
From Complete Arcane (3e):
Starmetal is extraordinarily hard and is equal to adamantine for all purposes. (...) Creating a weapon of star metal costs 5,000 gp more
For comparison, Mithral is listed as 500 gb per pound under Special Materials. According to Draconomicon (3e) under Trade Goods for calculating dragon hoards, Adamantine is priced the same as Mithral (100 gp for an ore).
So, Star Metal is 20 times more expensive than both materials.
answered 1 hour ago
ShadowKrasShadowKras
54.5k377140
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switched from "star metal" to "sky metal". One quote referred to it as "starmetal" but that might be the quoted text.
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– Ben Barden
1 hour ago
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@ShadowKras, The page for special materials lists adamantine weapons at an extra 3,000gp. I'm not sure why the Draconomicon lists them at the same price, but from that page we can see that they aren't equal, just based on the differences in the other crafting costs.
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– Benjamin
15 mins ago
add a comment |
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Star metal at 10,000 gp per pound
Star Metal is the most expensive material I could find. From Forgotten Realms Adventures (2e, p.141):
A typical price was 10,000 gp per pound (22,100 gp/kg)
From Complete Arcane (3e):
Starmetal is extraordinarily hard and is equal to adamantine for all purposes. (...) Creating a weapon of star metal costs 5,000 gp more
For comparison, Mithral is listed as 500 gb per pound under Special Materials. According to Draconomicon (3e) under Trade Goods for calculating dragon hoards, Adamantine is priced the same as Mithral (100 gp for an ore).
So, Star Metal is 20 times more expensive than both materials.
answered 1 hour ago
ShadowKrasShadowKras
54.5k377140
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Star metal at 10,000 gp per pound
Star Metal is the most expensive material I could find. From Forgotten Realms Adventures (2e, p.141):
A typical price was 10,000 gp per pound (22,100 gp/kg)
From Complete Arcane (3e):
Starmetal is extraordinarily hard and is equal to adamantine for all purposes. (...) Creating a weapon of star metal costs 5,000 gp more
For comparison, Mithral is listed as 500 gb per pound under Special Materials. According to Draconomicon (3e) under Trade Goods for calculating dragon hoards, Adamantine is priced the same as Mithral (100 gp for an ore).
So, Star Metal is 20 times more expensive than both materials.
answered 1 hour ago
ShadowKrasShadowKras
54.5k377140
edited 1 hour ago
answered 1 hour ago
ShadowKrasShadowKras
54.5k377140
answered 1 hour ago
ShadowKrasShadowKras
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answered 1 hour ago
ShadowKrasShadowKras
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switched from "star metal" to "sky metal". One quote referred to it as "starmetal" but that might be the quoted text.
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– Ben Barden
1 hour ago
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@ShadowKras, The page for special materials lists adamantine weapons at an extra 3,000gp. I'm not sure why the Draconomicon lists them at the same price, but from that page we can see that they aren't equal, just based on the differences in the other crafting costs.
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– Benjamin
15 mins ago
add a comment |
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switched from "star metal" to "sky metal". One quote referred to it as "starmetal" but that might be the quoted text.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
1 hour ago
$begingroup$
@ShadowKras, The page for special materials lists adamantine weapons at an extra 3,000gp. I'm not sure why the Draconomicon lists them at the same price, but from that page we can see that they aren't equal, just based on the differences in the other crafting costs.
$endgroup$
– Benjamin
15 mins ago
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switched from "star metal" to "sky metal". One quote referred to it as "starmetal" but that might be the quoted text.
$endgroup$
– Ben Barden
1 hour ago
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switched from "star metal" to "sky metal". One quote referred to it as "starmetal" but that might be the quoted text.
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– Ben Barden
1 hour ago
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@ShadowKras, The page for special materials lists adamantine weapons at an extra 3,000gp. I'm not sure why the Draconomicon lists them at the same price, but from that page we can see that they aren't equal, just based on the differences in the other crafting costs.
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– Benjamin
15 mins ago
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@ShadowKras, The page for special materials lists adamantine weapons at an extra 3,000gp. I'm not sure why the Draconomicon lists them at the same price, but from that page we can see that they aren't equal, just based on the differences in the other crafting costs.
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– Benjamin
15 mins ago
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Obdurium (from page 35 of the Stronghold Builder’s Guide) is twice as expensive as Adamantine, but it has 60 hp/inch and 30 points of hardness (both values are 1.5 times that of Adamantine). For a legendary artifact, it seems like a good option. An obdurium weapon costs 6,000 gp more than normal.
Besides the base material, it is also important to consider alloys when determining materials and costs. In particular, Dragon magazine issue 351 (page 45) mentions a special material called “oerthblood” which doubles the hardness of the base material and multiplies the hp by 1.5. For a weapon it raises the cost by 6,000gp.
Assuming lutes are priced similar to weapons, this would make Pun Pun’s obdurium-oerthblood instrument cost an additional 12,000gp for the materials alone. And this isn’t taking into account any non-material features he decided to add into the construction, such as dwarvencraft/elvencraft, skill enhancements, making it a magic or intelligent item, or any of the Artisan Craftsman special properties (described in Dragon Magazine 358).
And for those paying attention, this metal has a hardness of 60 and 90hp/inch.
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Obdurium (from page 35 of the Stronghold Builder’s Guide) is twice as expensive as Adamantine, but it has 60 hp/inch and 30 points of hardness (both values are 1.5 times that of Adamantine). For a legendary artifact, it seems like a good option. An obdurium weapon costs 6,000 gp more than normal.
Besides the base material, it is also important to consider alloys when determining materials and costs. In particular, Dragon magazine issue 351 (page 45) mentions a special material called “oerthblood” which doubles the hardness of the base material and multiplies the hp by 1.5. For a weapon it raises the cost by 6,000gp.
Assuming lutes are priced similar to weapons, this would make Pun Pun’s obdurium-oerthblood instrument cost an additional 12,000gp for the materials alone. And this isn’t taking into account any non-material features he decided to add into the construction, such as dwarvencraft/elvencraft, skill enhancements, making it a magic or intelligent item, or any of the Artisan Craftsman special properties (described in Dragon Magazine 358).
And for those paying attention, this metal has a hardness of 60 and 90hp/inch.
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BenjaminBenjamin
975
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Obdurium (from page 35 of the Stronghold Builder’s Guide) is twice as expensive as Adamantine, but it has 60 hp/inch and 30 points of hardness (both values are 1.5 times that of Adamantine). For a legendary artifact, it seems like a good option. An obdurium weapon costs 6,000 gp more than normal.
Besides the base material, it is also important to consider alloys when determining materials and costs. In particular, Dragon magazine issue 351 (page 45) mentions a special material called “oerthblood” which doubles the hardness of the base material and multiplies the hp by 1.5. For a weapon it raises the cost by 6,000gp.
Assuming lutes are priced similar to weapons, this would make Pun Pun’s obdurium-oerthblood instrument cost an additional 12,000gp for the materials alone. And this isn’t taking into account any non-material features he decided to add into the construction, such as dwarvencraft/elvencraft, skill enhancements, making it a magic or intelligent item, or any of the Artisan Craftsman special properties (described in Dragon Magazine 358).
And for those paying attention, this metal has a hardness of 60 and 90hp/inch.
answered 22 mins ago
BenjaminBenjamin
975
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Obdurium (from page 35 of the Stronghold Builder’s Guide) is twice as expensive as Adamantine, but it has 60 hp/inch and 30 points of hardness (both values are 1.5 times that of Adamantine). For a legendary artifact, it seems like a good option. An obdurium weapon costs 6,000 gp more than normal.
Besides the base material, it is also important to consider alloys when determining materials and costs. In particular, Dragon magazine issue 351 (page 45) mentions a special material called “oerthblood” which doubles the hardness of the base material and multiplies the hp by 1.5. For a weapon it raises the cost by 6,000gp.
Assuming lutes are priced similar to weapons, this would make Pun Pun’s obdurium-oerthblood instrument cost an additional 12,000gp for the materials alone. And this isn’t taking into account any non-material features he decided to add into the construction, such as dwarvencraft/elvencraft, skill enhancements, making it a magic or intelligent item, or any of the Artisan Craftsman special properties (described in Dragon Magazine 358).
And for those paying attention, this metal has a hardness of 60 and 90hp/inch.
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BenjaminBenjamin
975
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Thanks for your edit! That makes things much clearer. :-)
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– Rubiksmoose
4 hours ago
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Sounds like an invitation to homebrew something...
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– Zeiss Ikon
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@ZeissIkon I think it's workable. "Single most expensive possible lute" is more workable than "come up with a lute for me" the same way "help me optimize this character for this purpose" is more workable than "come up with a cool character for me".
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– doppelgreener♦
3 hours ago
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@ZeissIkon This looks like an optimization problem along the lines of "highest price for the seller" optimization. It also has a single criteria.
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– KorvinStarmast
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