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Let $f: mathbbR^mrightarrow mathbbR^m-k$ be a Lipschitz map.




Can we get a uniform estimate on the Hausdorff dimension of the boundaries of fibres of $f$? I.e. do we have an upper bound for
$$ sup_yin mathbbR^n-k dim_H(partial f^-1(y)) ?$$




Theorem 2.5 in [1] tells us, that for almost every $yin mathbbR^n-k$ we have that $dim_H(f^-1(y))leq k$. This tells us
$$ textessup_yin mathbbR^n-k dim_H(partial f^-1(y)) leq k.$$
Can we pass to the supremum? And are there even better bounds? I mean, I used $partial f^-1(y)subseteq f^-1(y)$ as $f$ is continuous and the monotonicity of the Hausdorff dimension, but I guess that one can do better than this.



[1] G. Alberti, S. Bianchini, G. Crippa, Structure of level sets and Sard-type properties of Lipschitz maps: results and counterexamples.
Ann. Sc. Norm. Super. Pisa Cl. Sci. (5) 12 (2013), no. 4, 863–902.










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    Let $f: mathbbR^mrightarrow mathbbR^m-k$ be a Lipschitz map.




    Can we get a uniform estimate on the Hausdorff dimension of the boundaries of fibres of $f$? I.e. do we have an upper bound for
    $$ sup_yin mathbbR^n-k dim_H(partial f^-1(y)) ?$$




    Theorem 2.5 in [1] tells us, that for almost every $yin mathbbR^n-k$ we have that $dim_H(f^-1(y))leq k$. This tells us
    $$ textessup_yin mathbbR^n-k dim_H(partial f^-1(y)) leq k.$$
    Can we pass to the supremum? And are there even better bounds? I mean, I used $partial f^-1(y)subseteq f^-1(y)$ as $f$ is continuous and the monotonicity of the Hausdorff dimension, but I guess that one can do better than this.



    [1] G. Alberti, S. Bianchini, G. Crippa, Structure of level sets and Sard-type properties of Lipschitz maps: results and counterexamples.
    Ann. Sc. Norm. Super. Pisa Cl. Sci. (5) 12 (2013), no. 4, 863–902.










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      Let $f: mathbbR^mrightarrow mathbbR^m-k$ be a Lipschitz map.




      Can we get a uniform estimate on the Hausdorff dimension of the boundaries of fibres of $f$? I.e. do we have an upper bound for
      $$ sup_yin mathbbR^n-k dim_H(partial f^-1(y)) ?$$




      Theorem 2.5 in [1] tells us, that for almost every $yin mathbbR^n-k$ we have that $dim_H(f^-1(y))leq k$. This tells us
      $$ textessup_yin mathbbR^n-k dim_H(partial f^-1(y)) leq k.$$
      Can we pass to the supremum? And are there even better bounds? I mean, I used $partial f^-1(y)subseteq f^-1(y)$ as $f$ is continuous and the monotonicity of the Hausdorff dimension, but I guess that one can do better than this.



      [1] G. Alberti, S. Bianchini, G. Crippa, Structure of level sets and Sard-type properties of Lipschitz maps: results and counterexamples.
      Ann. Sc. Norm. Super. Pisa Cl. Sci. (5) 12 (2013), no. 4, 863–902.










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      Let $f: mathbbR^mrightarrow mathbbR^m-k$ be a Lipschitz map.




      Can we get a uniform estimate on the Hausdorff dimension of the boundaries of fibres of $f$? I.e. do we have an upper bound for
      $$ sup_yin mathbbR^n-k dim_H(partial f^-1(y)) ?$$




      Theorem 2.5 in [1] tells us, that for almost every $yin mathbbR^n-k$ we have that $dim_H(f^-1(y))leq k$. This tells us
      $$ textessup_yin mathbbR^n-k dim_H(partial f^-1(y)) leq k.$$
      Can we pass to the supremum? And are there even better bounds? I mean, I used $partial f^-1(y)subseteq f^-1(y)$ as $f$ is continuous and the monotonicity of the Hausdorff dimension, but I guess that one can do better than this.



      [1] G. Alberti, S. Bianchini, G. Crippa, Structure of level sets and Sard-type properties of Lipschitz maps: results and counterexamples.
      Ann. Sc. Norm. Super. Pisa Cl. Sci. (5) 12 (2013), no. 4, 863–902.







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          Unfortunately, you can always find a Lipschitz map
          $$
          f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR^m-k
          quad
          textand
          quad
          yinmathbbR^m-k
          $$

          such that $partial f^-1(y)$ has positive $m$-dimensional measure so
          $dim_H partial f^-1(y)=m$.



          Here is an example. Let $KsubsetmathbbR^m$ be a Cantor set (i.e. a set homeomorphic to the ternary Cantor set) of positive $m$-dimensional measure. Existence of such a set $K$ is standard. Let $f(x)=operatornamedist(x,K)$. Then $f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR$ is $1$-Lipschitz and it vanishes precisely on $K$. That is $f^-1(0)=K=partial K$ (the boundary of a Cantor set is the Cantor set itself) has positive $m$-dimensional measure. Now, assuming that $mathbbRsubsetmathbbR^m-k$ we can regard $f$ as a mapping $f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR^m-k$.






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            Is it difficult to show the existence of such a map?
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            @SeverinSchraven I added details for the construction.
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          Unfortunately, you can always find a Lipschitz map
          $$
          f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR^m-k
          quad
          textand
          quad
          yinmathbbR^m-k
          $$

          such that $partial f^-1(y)$ has positive $m$-dimensional measure so
          $dim_H partial f^-1(y)=m$.



          Here is an example. Let $KsubsetmathbbR^m$ be a Cantor set (i.e. a set homeomorphic to the ternary Cantor set) of positive $m$-dimensional measure. Existence of such a set $K$ is standard. Let $f(x)=operatornamedist(x,K)$. Then $f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR$ is $1$-Lipschitz and it vanishes precisely on $K$. That is $f^-1(0)=K=partial K$ (the boundary of a Cantor set is the Cantor set itself) has positive $m$-dimensional measure. Now, assuming that $mathbbRsubsetmathbbR^m-k$ we can regard $f$ as a mapping $f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR^m-k$.






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            @SeverinSchraven I added details for the construction.
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          Unfortunately, you can always find a Lipschitz map
          $$
          f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR^m-k
          quad
          textand
          quad
          yinmathbbR^m-k
          $$

          such that $partial f^-1(y)$ has positive $m$-dimensional measure so
          $dim_H partial f^-1(y)=m$.



          Here is an example. Let $KsubsetmathbbR^m$ be a Cantor set (i.e. a set homeomorphic to the ternary Cantor set) of positive $m$-dimensional measure. Existence of such a set $K$ is standard. Let $f(x)=operatornamedist(x,K)$. Then $f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR$ is $1$-Lipschitz and it vanishes precisely on $K$. That is $f^-1(0)=K=partial K$ (the boundary of a Cantor set is the Cantor set itself) has positive $m$-dimensional measure. Now, assuming that $mathbbRsubsetmathbbR^m-k$ we can regard $f$ as a mapping $f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR^m-k$.






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            @SeverinSchraven I added details for the construction.
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          $$
          f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR^m-k
          quad
          textand
          quad
          yinmathbbR^m-k
          $$

          such that $partial f^-1(y)$ has positive $m$-dimensional measure so
          $dim_H partial f^-1(y)=m$.



          Here is an example. Let $KsubsetmathbbR^m$ be a Cantor set (i.e. a set homeomorphic to the ternary Cantor set) of positive $m$-dimensional measure. Existence of such a set $K$ is standard. Let $f(x)=operatornamedist(x,K)$. Then $f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR$ is $1$-Lipschitz and it vanishes precisely on $K$. That is $f^-1(0)=K=partial K$ (the boundary of a Cantor set is the Cantor set itself) has positive $m$-dimensional measure. Now, assuming that $mathbbRsubsetmathbbR^m-k$ we can regard $f$ as a mapping $f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR^m-k$.






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          Unfortunately, you can always find a Lipschitz map
          $$
          f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR^m-k
          quad
          textand
          quad
          yinmathbbR^m-k
          $$

          such that $partial f^-1(y)$ has positive $m$-dimensional measure so
          $dim_H partial f^-1(y)=m$.



          Here is an example. Let $KsubsetmathbbR^m$ be a Cantor set (i.e. a set homeomorphic to the ternary Cantor set) of positive $m$-dimensional measure. Existence of such a set $K$ is standard. Let $f(x)=operatornamedist(x,K)$. Then $f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR$ is $1$-Lipschitz and it vanishes precisely on $K$. That is $f^-1(0)=K=partial K$ (the boundary of a Cantor set is the Cantor set itself) has positive $m$-dimensional measure. Now, assuming that $mathbbRsubsetmathbbR^m-k$ we can regard $f$ as a mapping $f:mathbbR^mtomathbbR^m-k$.







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            Is it difficult to show the existence of such a map?
            $endgroup$
            – Severin Schraven
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            @SeverinSchraven I added details for the construction.
            $endgroup$
            – Piotr Hajlasz
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            Thanks, that is pretty elegant. Even though I am suprised that the statement is not true :)
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          @SeverinSchraven I added details for the construction.
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          – Piotr Hajlasz
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