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Why the various definitions of the thin space ,?


Why is there a , space at the beginning of the “aligned” environment?Styling definitionsWhy is `strut` working in these scenarios?Necessity of nested text within math mode for proper mathchoice-based scalingHow can I insert a thin space (,) in a listing?Turn * into thin space for clearer math spacingAlways safe to use empty braces `` to guard space?unbreakable (thin) space inside « », for tex4htThin space between minus sign and numberHow to reduce the space between two definitions?













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Knuths definition of , is mskipthinmuskip.



LaTeX changes this definition to



DeclareRobustCommand,%
relaxifmmodemskipthinmuskipelsethinspacefi

defthinspacekern .16667em


amsmath.sty says it's



DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
ifmmodemskip#1#2elsekern#1#3firelax
renewcommand,tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em


I might understand LaTeX's point to make a command usable also in text mode. But what's the point of the redefinition by amsmath?










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    Knuths definition of , is mskipthinmuskip.



    LaTeX changes this definition to



    DeclareRobustCommand,%
    relaxifmmodemskipthinmuskipelsethinspacefi

    defthinspacekern .16667em


    amsmath.sty says it's



    DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
    ifmmodemskip#1#2elsekern#1#3firelax
    renewcommand,tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em


    I might understand LaTeX's point to make a command usable also in text mode. But what's the point of the redefinition by amsmath?










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      Knuths definition of , is mskipthinmuskip.



      LaTeX changes this definition to



      DeclareRobustCommand,%
      relaxifmmodemskipthinmuskipelsethinspacefi

      defthinspacekern .16667em


      amsmath.sty says it's



      DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
      ifmmodemskip#1#2elsekern#1#3firelax
      renewcommand,tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em


      I might understand LaTeX's point to make a command usable also in text mode. But what's the point of the redefinition by amsmath?










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      Knuths definition of , is mskipthinmuskip.



      LaTeX changes this definition to



      DeclareRobustCommand,%
      relaxifmmodemskipthinmuskipelsethinspacefi

      defthinspacekern .16667em


      amsmath.sty says it's



      DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
      ifmmodemskip#1#2elsekern#1#3firelax
      renewcommand,tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em


      I might understand LaTeX's point to make a command usable also in text mode. But what's the point of the redefinition by amsmath?







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          You should look at the full picture:



           152 │ ifxleavevmode@ifvmode@undefined
          153 │ DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
          154 │ ifmmodemskip#1#2elsekern#1#3firelax
          155 │ else
          156 │ DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
          157 │ ifmmodemskip#1#2elseleavevmode@ifvmodekern#1#3firelax
          158 │ fi
          159 │ renewcommand,tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em
          160 │ letthinspace,
          161 │ renewcommand!tmspace-thinmuskip.1667em
          162 │ letnegthinspace!
          163 │ renewcommand:tmspace+medmuskip.2222em
          164 │ letmedspace:
          165 │ newcommandnegmedspacetmspace-medmuskip.2222em
          166 │ renewcommand;tmspace+thickmuskip.2777em
          167 │ letthickspace;
          168 │ newcommandnegthickspacetmspace-thickmuskip.2777em


          The two definitions of tmspace are due to recent decisions to make such commands start paragraph mode anyway. With a recent LaTeX kernel the second one will be used.



          Contrast this with the code in the LaTeX kernel:



          1619 │ DeclareRobustCommand,%
          1620 │ relaxifmmodemskipthinmuskipelsethinspacefi
          1621 │

          1630 │ defthinspaceleavevmode@ifvmodekern .16667em
          1631 │ defnegthinspaceleavevmode@ifvmodekern-.16667em

          4543 │ def>mskipmedmuskip
          4544 │ def;mskipthickmuskip
          4545 │ def!mskip-thinmuskip

          4547 │ let:=>


          The approach of amsmath is much more rational and cleaner. They also provide text mode equivalent of all macros, whereas ! cannot be used in text mode if amsmath is not loaded, and similarly for the others. The final result will be essentially the same. However, a , command will be translated into tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em when written in an auxiliary file, instead of ,. Not really a big deal.






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            You should look at the full picture:



             152 │ ifxleavevmode@ifvmode@undefined
            153 │ DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
            154 │ ifmmodemskip#1#2elsekern#1#3firelax
            155 │ else
            156 │ DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
            157 │ ifmmodemskip#1#2elseleavevmode@ifvmodekern#1#3firelax
            158 │ fi
            159 │ renewcommand,tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em
            160 │ letthinspace,
            161 │ renewcommand!tmspace-thinmuskip.1667em
            162 │ letnegthinspace!
            163 │ renewcommand:tmspace+medmuskip.2222em
            164 │ letmedspace:
            165 │ newcommandnegmedspacetmspace-medmuskip.2222em
            166 │ renewcommand;tmspace+thickmuskip.2777em
            167 │ letthickspace;
            168 │ newcommandnegthickspacetmspace-thickmuskip.2777em


            The two definitions of tmspace are due to recent decisions to make such commands start paragraph mode anyway. With a recent LaTeX kernel the second one will be used.



            Contrast this with the code in the LaTeX kernel:



            1619 │ DeclareRobustCommand,%
            1620 │ relaxifmmodemskipthinmuskipelsethinspacefi
            1621 │

            1630 │ defthinspaceleavevmode@ifvmodekern .16667em
            1631 │ defnegthinspaceleavevmode@ifvmodekern-.16667em

            4543 │ def>mskipmedmuskip
            4544 │ def;mskipthickmuskip
            4545 │ def!mskip-thinmuskip

            4547 │ let:=>


            The approach of amsmath is much more rational and cleaner. They also provide text mode equivalent of all macros, whereas ! cannot be used in text mode if amsmath is not loaded, and similarly for the others. The final result will be essentially the same. However, a , command will be translated into tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em when written in an auxiliary file, instead of ,. Not really a big deal.






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              You should look at the full picture:



               152 │ ifxleavevmode@ifvmode@undefined
              153 │ DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
              154 │ ifmmodemskip#1#2elsekern#1#3firelax
              155 │ else
              156 │ DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
              157 │ ifmmodemskip#1#2elseleavevmode@ifvmodekern#1#3firelax
              158 │ fi
              159 │ renewcommand,tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em
              160 │ letthinspace,
              161 │ renewcommand!tmspace-thinmuskip.1667em
              162 │ letnegthinspace!
              163 │ renewcommand:tmspace+medmuskip.2222em
              164 │ letmedspace:
              165 │ newcommandnegmedspacetmspace-medmuskip.2222em
              166 │ renewcommand;tmspace+thickmuskip.2777em
              167 │ letthickspace;
              168 │ newcommandnegthickspacetmspace-thickmuskip.2777em


              The two definitions of tmspace are due to recent decisions to make such commands start paragraph mode anyway. With a recent LaTeX kernel the second one will be used.



              Contrast this with the code in the LaTeX kernel:



              1619 │ DeclareRobustCommand,%
              1620 │ relaxifmmodemskipthinmuskipelsethinspacefi
              1621 │

              1630 │ defthinspaceleavevmode@ifvmodekern .16667em
              1631 │ defnegthinspaceleavevmode@ifvmodekern-.16667em

              4543 │ def>mskipmedmuskip
              4544 │ def;mskipthickmuskip
              4545 │ def!mskip-thinmuskip

              4547 │ let:=>


              The approach of amsmath is much more rational and cleaner. They also provide text mode equivalent of all macros, whereas ! cannot be used in text mode if amsmath is not loaded, and similarly for the others. The final result will be essentially the same. However, a , command will be translated into tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em when written in an auxiliary file, instead of ,. Not really a big deal.






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                You should look at the full picture:



                 152 │ ifxleavevmode@ifvmode@undefined
                153 │ DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
                154 │ ifmmodemskip#1#2elsekern#1#3firelax
                155 │ else
                156 │ DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
                157 │ ifmmodemskip#1#2elseleavevmode@ifvmodekern#1#3firelax
                158 │ fi
                159 │ renewcommand,tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em
                160 │ letthinspace,
                161 │ renewcommand!tmspace-thinmuskip.1667em
                162 │ letnegthinspace!
                163 │ renewcommand:tmspace+medmuskip.2222em
                164 │ letmedspace:
                165 │ newcommandnegmedspacetmspace-medmuskip.2222em
                166 │ renewcommand;tmspace+thickmuskip.2777em
                167 │ letthickspace;
                168 │ newcommandnegthickspacetmspace-thickmuskip.2777em


                The two definitions of tmspace are due to recent decisions to make such commands start paragraph mode anyway. With a recent LaTeX kernel the second one will be used.



                Contrast this with the code in the LaTeX kernel:



                1619 │ DeclareRobustCommand,%
                1620 │ relaxifmmodemskipthinmuskipelsethinspacefi
                1621 │

                1630 │ defthinspaceleavevmode@ifvmodekern .16667em
                1631 │ defnegthinspaceleavevmode@ifvmodekern-.16667em

                4543 │ def>mskipmedmuskip
                4544 │ def;mskipthickmuskip
                4545 │ def!mskip-thinmuskip

                4547 │ let:=>


                The approach of amsmath is much more rational and cleaner. They also provide text mode equivalent of all macros, whereas ! cannot be used in text mode if amsmath is not loaded, and similarly for the others. The final result will be essentially the same. However, a , command will be translated into tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em when written in an auxiliary file, instead of ,. Not really a big deal.






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                You should look at the full picture:



                 152 │ ifxleavevmode@ifvmode@undefined
                153 │ DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
                154 │ ifmmodemskip#1#2elsekern#1#3firelax
                155 │ else
                156 │ DeclareRobustCommandtmspace[3]%
                157 │ ifmmodemskip#1#2elseleavevmode@ifvmodekern#1#3firelax
                158 │ fi
                159 │ renewcommand,tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em
                160 │ letthinspace,
                161 │ renewcommand!tmspace-thinmuskip.1667em
                162 │ letnegthinspace!
                163 │ renewcommand:tmspace+medmuskip.2222em
                164 │ letmedspace:
                165 │ newcommandnegmedspacetmspace-medmuskip.2222em
                166 │ renewcommand;tmspace+thickmuskip.2777em
                167 │ letthickspace;
                168 │ newcommandnegthickspacetmspace-thickmuskip.2777em


                The two definitions of tmspace are due to recent decisions to make such commands start paragraph mode anyway. With a recent LaTeX kernel the second one will be used.



                Contrast this with the code in the LaTeX kernel:



                1619 │ DeclareRobustCommand,%
                1620 │ relaxifmmodemskipthinmuskipelsethinspacefi
                1621 │

                1630 │ defthinspaceleavevmode@ifvmodekern .16667em
                1631 │ defnegthinspaceleavevmode@ifvmodekern-.16667em

                4543 │ def>mskipmedmuskip
                4544 │ def;mskipthickmuskip
                4545 │ def!mskip-thinmuskip

                4547 │ let:=>


                The approach of amsmath is much more rational and cleaner. They also provide text mode equivalent of all macros, whereas ! cannot be used in text mode if amsmath is not loaded, and similarly for the others. The final result will be essentially the same. However, a , command will be translated into tmspace+thinmuskip.1667em when written in an auxiliary file, instead of ,. Not really a big deal.







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